I have long been a huge fan of Maynard James Keenan, Tool, A Perfect Circle, etc. Not just the sound of the music, but the quality of the music. Each line and each drum beat is careully planned out. It alls means something greater. And that something greater is intelligence. The music is just smart. The man is just smart. A genius. I hate when people go calling MJK, a God. He is not a God, just a man with a lot to say and luckily the intelligence and the talent to say things in a way that gets people thinking. He's a modern day philosopher, psychologist, scientist if you will. He doesnt want a following, doesnt want to be a leader of a "cult". He just wants to play his music and have an audience that appreciates it for what it really is....an experience. A learning experience.
He is definately well on his way to becoming a legend.
So in my boredom today I turned to Wikipedia as usual. And I looked up Tool. And I was shocked to see the amount of material on the band. (I still havent finished the article, lol). I got sidetracked on my quest to learn more about them and came across this interview. I cant find any reference information on it. But it must have been in the past several years. Just after Thirteenth Step came out. Read on down to the very end of the interview, where MJK discusses his political stance. He says just what I was trying to say last week about history being cyclical! So if you dont believe me, believe MJK...
Kurt Loder: Was it really you who created the "Free Frances Bean" T-shirt?
Maynard James Keenan: Oh, yeah, back in '96, '97. Everybody at that time was trying to get us to do all these benefit shows — you know, like "Free Tibet." And I was like, "I'm gonna have my own platform: Free Frances Bean." Because just watching the tornado that is her mother, my first thought was, "Oh my God, how is Frances Bean gonna survive this insanity?" Because artists can be extremely eccentric and insane, and unfortunately, the people they hurt the most are the people that are closest to them. The shirt was kind of a flippant joke, and then it just spiraled out of control — everyone wanted them, and I was giving them away. Courtney hates me. She called me a media whore once. Isn't that great? I have the distinction of being called a media whore by Courtney Love.
Loder: The album title, Thirteenth Step, seems to be a reference to the Alcoholics Anonymous 12-step rehab program.
Keenan: I don't think the album is specifically for people who are going through recovery, although that metaphor is absolutely present. Many of the songs are sung from the perspectives of recovery: from the perspective of a person who is in denial about a loved one, and from the drug perspective itself — the perspective of a person who is starting to realize that there is an issue, and of a person who is ready to deal with it.
This was a very difficult task for me, because I don't know what [drug addiction] is like. I drew on the experiences of friends who have gone through recovery, and friends who will never go through recovery. Layne Staley, for example, who was an old friend.
Loder: You must have seen that coming with him, right?
Keenan: Yeah, absolutely. But there was nothing you could do, and it's very difficult to understand. Being a friend to someone like Layne, it really kind of does your head in. I don't understand it, but I do want to help other people who are on that borderline, who might hear [a song] and go, "You know what, I think I want to try to live."
Loder: Have you ever had a drug problem yourself?
Keenan: I've experimented, absolutely. I've definitely treaded that fine line. But I've never gotten so down into it that I couldn't dig my way back out, luckily. There's that voice in there somewhere — which some people don't have — that says, "Hang on, come back."
Loder: You seem a lot less angry now than you were back in the early Tool days. Do you worry about the fans who say they miss that old, angry Maynard?
Keenan: No. You can go out and buy the records. There's Opiate [a 1992 EP], there's Undertow. The whole idea is to get it out: Write the song about it, spout off about it and get over it. I suppose I could repeat myself over and over again, but what's the point of that? The idea is, if I can't heal from my art, then how can you heal? So I've worked some things out and moved on.
Loder: Are you a difficult guy to work with?
Keenan: I think the biggest problem working with me would be that I'm an only child, and so I have an internal dialogue that goes on that I just assume you can hear. Because as an only child, you have your own little world. Then you go into a situation where you're working with other people, and unless you actually vocalize what you're thinking, the other people will go through hell trying to figure out what's going on.
I'm a lot easier to work with now than I have been in the past, for sure.
Loder: How do the Tool guys feel about A Perfect Circle?
Keenan: I think initially they were offended and, ah, jealous. But I think now they realize the benefit of it. It allows us to do what we set out to do, which is to take the time that the music needs to take before you present it. For me to have done Lateralus and then come out with another Tool album within a year wouldn't have been a good step forward. We've always subscribed to the idea that you have to process life experiences and go through your natural progression as an artist to let the [music] come out, rather than forcing it out. We're just the kind of band where it takes a long time for us to process.
Meanwhile [with A Perfect Circle], I'm processing other things while Tool's going on. I have another outlet.
Loder: But Tool fans inevitably do want another Tool album, and some of them must resent your devoting all this time to A Perfect Circle.
Keenan: They keep going, "Are you working on another Tool album?" I'm like a mother on a table. I'm, like, giving birth to a baby, and you're asking me if I'm going to have another baby. Not right now, probably. Don't really feel like having sex right now, I'm having a f---ing baby. I'm out here busting my ass; we're working hard on this. This is our new child; we're nurturing it, developing it and showing it to the world.
Loder: How do you relate to your fans?
Keenan: I just hope that our fans are people who are inspired by music, and just use our music as a background or inspiration for whatever it is they do. I would hope they would be our fellow artists, rather than trying to emulate or idolize clowns like us.
Loder: Tool fans are pretty intense. Some of them already appear to think of you as a legendary character.
Keenan: That's kind of weird. How'd that happen? I don't even know how to process that statement. I can't be a legend yet. I'm not dead.
Loder: Why do you never include a lyric sheet with your albums? Why do fans have to go online to get them?
Keenan: Because I think reading is a thinking process, and I would prefer that people feel the album first, and just let it sink in. Because you might get something out of the music that you might not get from thinking about it, and watching the words go by. I usually put the lyrics online a month or so after the release of the album, but it's better to feel them first.
Loder: You're a writer — have you ever thought about writing a book?
Keenan: No, not really. I was going to write a book once, and I did that thing where you open up your Microsoft Word and ...
Loder: And you just sit there staring at a blank screen.
Keenan: Yeah, totally. So I started searching for Internet porn instead.
Loder: You're kind of a remote guy as a performer, wearing those wigs and dresses onstage ...
Keenan: That started when I had a son. That's the main reason for the makeup, the wigs, the bras, whatever you've seen in the past with Tool. I just like the incognito aspect, because now I can wander around even where I live and not really be hassled too much. I just think it's really unfair for my child to have to be victimized by my career — you know, here you are signing autographs in the 7-11. It seems ridiculous to me. And I try not to be in my videos.
Loder: You don't like to look at yourself?
Keenan: No.
Loder: What kind of music did you grow up liking?
Keenan: Joni Mitchell. I think everything Joni Mitchell did for music was big. I was really influenced by her.
Loder: Did it pain you to hear "Big Yellow Taxi" sampled by Janet Jackson on "Got 'Til It's Gone"?
Keenan: It was agonizing. But ... Joni Mitchell, PJ Harvey, Björk. Growing up, I was really into Aerosmith and AC/DC.
Loder: Do you like classical music?
Keenan: A little bit. I wouldn't be able to spout off my favorite piece, but I definitely appreciate what goes into it. When Bach and Beethoven and all of those guys were doing their thing, it was an absolute pinnacle of our consciousness, and ever since then we've been re-exploring different avenues of it. The same argument could be made about the Beatles: Ever since the Beatles, there's been a regurgitation, trying to figure out how to reinvent that wheel.
Loder: What do you make of the current state of the music business, and the illegal downloading the record companies say is siphoning off their profits?
Keenan: There is still a future with music, because people want music. But I don't know if the record labels will be involved. The panic you're seeing now is basically coming from the labels trying to figure out how they're gonna monopolize and manipulate and suck the blood out of artists anymore.
Loder: Are you opposed to file-sharing?
Keenan: Not necessarily. But I wish people would realize what an artist normally makes on the sale of an album. Nowadays, you have to sell, like, half a million or a million records just to break even. And how many bands sell a million records? Not that many.
Loder: Then there are the acts that get signed to, like, $60 million record deals ...
Keenan: Well, I've never gotten that deal. I'm not Mariah Carey.
Loder: Did you ever see her movie, "Glitter"?
Keenan: No.
Loder: It's fabulous, you've really gotta see it. It's right up there with "Battlefield Earth."
Keenan: "Battlefield Earth" is the pinnacle. It's a pure film, pure art. You can put it on, and within seconds of having put it on, you forget you're watching a movie and you walk off and make toast or something. Nothing memorable happens. It's just ... two hours are all of a sudden just gone. Which is not like a movie like "The Postman," which has a whole different effect. That one stretches time. You're like, Oh, man, I'm getting older as I'm watching this. I've missed three birthdays.
Loder: Are you a political person?
Keenan: I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story before.
I think people in general have neglected to learn about history. But then it hasn't really been a focus of our government to make us an educated people. Just in general, any government throughout history hasn't really wanted its people to be educated, because then they couldn't control them as easily. If the education of our kids comes from radio, television, newspapers — if that's where they get most of their knowledge from, and not from the schools, then the powers that be are definitely in charge, because they own all those outlets.
Loder: OK, on that note, do you have anything to say to your fans?
Keenan: Turn off your television. Go do something.
The Devil who Spawned Her???
Okay who did not see this coming. I sure did. It is really sad when we live in a day and age where people are still so terrified of diversity. These people are hiding behind religion. Its fear that keeps them hiding.
Calling JK Rowling "spawn of the Devil" certainly doesnt seem to be very Christian/religious to me. And people actually think she did this as some kind of trick.
It is times like these I am actually ashamed to live in the Bible Belt. It is embarassing for the rest of the world to be able to look at this part of such a seemingly "progressive" country and see how backwards everything is that goes on around here. Its a childrens book people!!
Children are not going to read the book and pick up all of the adult innuendos. A child does not even know what homosexuality is. And there is nothing in the book outwardly homosexual about Dumbledore. The adults reading the book should have already made an educated opinion on homosexuality and I dont think a book based entirely in fantasy is going to do much to change that opinion.
Happy Halloween JK Rowling...please say hey to the devil for me...
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Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Yes I love this game....you would have thought I won a million dollars when I got it tonight. Just had to tell you.
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Britney mocks confession
Oh Britney. I can see you are trying to be Madonna like...but give it up. Madonna has class. Her videos/outfits may have been deemed risque, but never has her personal life been so out of control. You are acting like a trashy, trashy girl. Didnt your mama ever tell you...money doenst buy you class? I feel so sorry for you and your new album. If you cant take yourself seriously how is the world supposed too?
I understand the antics and the partying probably started out as fun and games...but when you realized you could not sell records without the antics I think you hit rock bottom. The 14 year old girls who bought your first albums have grown up now. They arent looking forward to your new album. You are like En Vougue, NKOTB....a childhood memory.
Please just give it up. You will never become an icon like Madonna. You need to focus on your personal life and do everything in your power to get your kids back. To fail as a mother must be the worst pain in the world. Focus that pain into an energy you can use to get your kids back. Dont drown the pain in alcohol and drugs. Quit being an attention whore. Dont be fooled by the false sales of your album. It sucks...people like a train wreck...
The inspiration behind this rant.
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junk: Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity)
Just thought we could take a minute and revisit the issue of our old friend Chris Crocker. Seems just when I thought his fifteen minutes was up, I Googled the man, and I was shocked and amazed to see that Chris Crocker has gotten his very own entry in Wikipedia. It states he is famous for "internet activity" and has been active in this arena since 2006. So who was the first "internet celebrity"? We all remember the Star Wars Kid and Andy Milonakis. That's right we remember them....but what are they doing now? More notable "internet celebrities" that I hadnt heard of until researching for this blog are: Mahir Cagri (claims to be very first internet celebrity), Craig Shergold, Numa Numa!.I dont want the legend of Chris Crocker to die...I want to help his 15 minutes turn into 30. So stay tuned for more Chris updates.
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Mahir Cagri
This guy is a Borat wanna-be or else Borat copied him. There is a legal battle involved. The popularity for this "internet celebrity" was said to be spread by word of mouth in the late 90s.
Makes no sense to me...but here it is.
Makes no sense to me...but here it is.
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Andy Milonakis
Born: 30 January 1976
Birthplace: Katonah, New York
Best Known As: Youthful-looking MTV prankster who did "The Superbowl Is Gay"
Comedian Andy Milonakis landed his own series on MTV in 2005, thanks in large part to "The Superbowl Is Gay," a short comedy film he posted on the Internet in 2003. The film, featuring Milonakis performing an impromptu "song" in which pretty much everything -- from DVDs to orange juice -- is "gay," made the rounds on the Web and drew attention to other short films he had posted at AngryNakedPat.com. Television personality Jimmy Kimmel took notice and hired Milonakis to do wacky man-on-the-street interviews for Jimmy Kimmel Live, which in turn led to a Kimmel-produced series for MTV, The Andy Milonakis Show. On TV Milonakis appears to be a young teenager whose crude and ridiculous antics celebrate a comedy rooted in immature pranks. In fact, he is much older than he appears, and it's been said his physical appearance is due to what he has called a "growth hormone thing." Like American Idol reject William Hung, Milonakis made a name for himself by being an uncommonly bad performer. In 2005 he appeared in the indie comedy Waiting... (starring Ryan Reynolds), and in 2007 he co-starred with Outkast's Big Boi in the comedy feature Who's Your Caddy?
Birthplace: Katonah, New York
Best Known As: Youthful-looking MTV prankster who did "The Superbowl Is Gay"
Comedian Andy Milonakis landed his own series on MTV in 2005, thanks in large part to "The Superbowl Is Gay," a short comedy film he posted on the Internet in 2003. The film, featuring Milonakis performing an impromptu "song" in which pretty much everything -- from DVDs to orange juice -- is "gay," made the rounds on the Web and drew attention to other short films he had posted at AngryNakedPat.com. Television personality Jimmy Kimmel took notice and hired Milonakis to do wacky man-on-the-street interviews for Jimmy Kimmel Live, which in turn led to a Kimmel-produced series for MTV, The Andy Milonakis Show. On TV Milonakis appears to be a young teenager whose crude and ridiculous antics celebrate a comedy rooted in immature pranks. In fact, he is much older than he appears, and it's been said his physical appearance is due to what he has called a "growth hormone thing." Like American Idol reject William Hung, Milonakis made a name for himself by being an uncommonly bad performer. In 2005 he appeared in the indie comedy Waiting... (starring Ryan Reynolds), and in 2007 he co-starred with Outkast's Big Boi in the comedy feature Who's Your Caddy?
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Star Wars Kid
See it for yourself.
The amazing thing is...this video is still viewed and commented on regularly. Thanks to Kazaa and the internet...this video has been viewed approximately over 900 million times. Poor Canadian kid is apparently under psyciatric care for all the "pain and suffering" he has endured because of this video. Embarassing as it might be...this kid should realize. People watch because its funny. We arent lauging at you Stars Wars Kid...we are laughing with you. We have all stood in our homes, dorm rooms, bedrooms, kitchens, etc and done something childish, embarassing. Its what we do when no one is watching that gives us character. Hell, I have held many concerts using a brush for a microphone, tried to "surf" on my ironing board, done a little strip tease in the full length mirror, etc. Would I want to become an internet celebrity for doing these things? Hey....why not?
The amazing thing is...this video is still viewed and commented on regularly. Thanks to Kazaa and the internet...this video has been viewed approximately over 900 million times. Poor Canadian kid is apparently under psyciatric care for all the "pain and suffering" he has endured because of this video. Embarassing as it might be...this kid should realize. People watch because its funny. We arent lauging at you Stars Wars Kid...we are laughing with you. We have all stood in our homes, dorm rooms, bedrooms, kitchens, etc and done something childish, embarassing. Its what we do when no one is watching that gives us character. Hell, I have held many concerts using a brush for a microphone, tried to "surf" on my ironing board, done a little strip tease in the full length mirror, etc. Would I want to become an internet celebrity for doing these things? Hey....why not?
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Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity)
Just thought we could take a minute and revisit the issue of our old friend Chris Crocker. Seems just when I thought his fifteen minutes was up, I Googled the man, and I was shocked and amazed to see that Chris Crocker has gotten his very own entry in Wikipedia. It states he is famous for "internet activity" and has been active in this arena since 2006.
So who was the first "internet celebrity"? We all remember the Star Wars Kid and Andy Milonakis. That's right we remember them....but what are they doing now?
More notable "internet celebrities" that I hadnt heard of until researching for this blog are: Mahir Cagri (claims to be very first internet celebrity), Craig Shergold, Numa Numa!.
I dont want the legend of Chris Crocker to die...I want to help his 15 minutes turn into 30. So stay tuned for more Chris updates.
So who was the first "internet celebrity"? We all remember the Star Wars Kid and Andy Milonakis. That's right we remember them....but what are they doing now?
More notable "internet celebrities" that I hadnt heard of until researching for this blog are: Mahir Cagri (claims to be very first internet celebrity), Craig Shergold, Numa Numa!.
I dont want the legend of Chris Crocker to die...I want to help his 15 minutes turn into 30. So stay tuned for more Chris updates.
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Just thought I would put this up here...
Friday, April 06, 2007
so mad
Current mood: annoyed
Category: Life
k so i am in line at mcd's this morning and dude in front of me is on his cell phone...arguing with his girlfriend cause what she wants is too expensive....now what she wanted was the hot cakes w/ sausage. well the 70 cent difference between the hot cakes and then the hot cakes w/ sausage was going to break his bank. so after a few minutes (okay probably more like seconds, but it seemed to be forever) of him arguing w/ her.... i reach into my bag and give him 75 cents. this fool then proceeds to keep talking on his cell phone w/ his girl and doesnt even say fuckin thank you!!!!!!!!! people kill me!!!!!! but at least he got the hell out of there so i could also get out of there. karma will get that boy. rude rude rude. kids today are so rude. he wasnt even a kid!!!!!! he was probably my age!!!! RIDICULOUS!!!
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Friday, April 06, 2007
so mad
Current mood: annoyed
Category: Life
k so i am in line at mcd's this morning and dude in front of me is on his cell phone...arguing with his girlfriend cause what she wants is too expensive....now what she wanted was the hot cakes w/ sausage. well the 70 cent difference between the hot cakes and then the hot cakes w/ sausage was going to break his bank. so after a few minutes (okay probably more like seconds, but it seemed to be forever) of him arguing w/ her.... i reach into my bag and give him 75 cents. this fool then proceeds to keep talking on his cell phone w/ his girl and doesnt even say fuckin thank you!!!!!!!!! people kill me!!!!!! but at least he got the hell out of there so i could also get out of there. karma will get that boy. rude rude rude. kids today are so rude. he wasnt even a kid!!!!!! he was probably my age!!!! RIDICULOUS!!!
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To comment on my own post; I believe JK Rowling kind of happened upon this Dumbledore outing thing... To say she knew 10 years ago what an impact this minor detail she left out of her story is a stretch. To say that she hid the fact that he was gay is also a stretch. And I now believe it is the literary critics digging up evidence to prove the fact that they knew he was gay all along or at least should have seen the signs to save face. Read below: this is a wonderful article putting things in perspective as to exactly why it matters that this beloved character is homosexual.
Dumbledore: A Lovely Outing
Why J.K. Rowling's revelation is a rare positive sign at a particularly bad moment to be a gay consumer of pop culture
DUMBLEDORE J.K. Rowling's revelation about the Hogwarts headmaster is ''a challenge to look at the world — even a world of magic — as it really is,'' writes Harris
Murray Close
By Mark Harris Mark Harris
Mark Harris is a writer and former executive editor of EWNow she tells us? When I first heard that J.K. Rowling had revealed the homosexuality of Professor Albus Dumbledore, esteemed headmaster of Hogwarts, before a packed congregation of children and adults at Carnegie Hall on Oct. 19, my reaction was half appreciation, half annoyance. Ten years, seven books, 4,000 pages, and it never occurred to her to mention this before? At least she didn't make the gay character a fairy (or a troll), so we'll be spared those jokes, I thought. Rowling's announcement felt almost too strategic, a gotcha! she conveniently withheld until the multibillion-dollar revenue stream had had years to flow. And why bother? The outing of Dumbledore doesn't seriously reshape any plotline in the Harry Potter novels, nor do the books ever drop the kind of hints that would inspire questions from readers. Also, the saga is over, and Dumbledore's, you know, dead, so, like that infamous moment on Law & Order when viewers suddenly learned that one of the show's main characters was a lesbian literally 10 seconds before she left the series, it all seemed a bit easy.
It's not. Rowling is shrewd, but she's not an opportunist or a coward. One simple fact overrode my skepticism: She didn't have to do this. Not now, not later, not with two movies pending, and not in a roomful of kids. And make no mistake: All of these were choices, including her unveiling of a romantic backstory for Dumbledore, lest anyone think she was either joking or throwing a gratuitous pride-parade Patronus at the tiny band of flat-earthers whose shrieks that her books promote witchcraft were long ago drowned out by the world's giggles.
So why now, and why Dumbledore? The answer has much to do with the universe Rowling has created, in which easy assumptions about a character's motives, past, or inner life have, in book after book, been proven wrong, and with her own progressive and humane politics. It's often said that if every gay person in the world were to turn purple overnight, homophobia would disappear: In other words, fewer people would be inclined to vilify other human beings if they woke up one day and discovered that they'd been aiming stones at their college roommate, their aunt, their grocer, or their grandson. Statistics bear this out: People who have a gay family member or friend have more enlightened attitudes about homosexuality than those who don't.
What Rowling has done, brilliantly, is to turn Dumbledore purple. She didn't reveal his sexuality in order to unlock a new way of reading the books, or as a provocation. She simply told the world that a main character in the best-loved books of the last 10 years is homosexual, and asked her audience to contend with it — and with the fact that it shouldn't matter. And her choice to make a beloved professor-mentor gay in a world where gay teachers are still routinely slandered as malign influences was, I am certain, no accident.
In addition to the braying of hatemongers, there's already been some umbrage taken at the appropriateness of Rowling's decision to uncork this news in front of children, a brand of sanctimony for which I have no patience. At least one out of 25 of those children will eventually self-identify as homosexual. The other 24, having made their way through an epic series that includes multiple murders, demonic possession, and the psychic toll of having mentally ill parents, will, I imagine, be able to handle the bulletin that some people are gay, and will likely benefit from the richer understanding of the world that such knowledge provides.
This is not a great moment to be a gay consumer of pop culture. In mainstream movies, gay characters are almost nonexistent — we are, once again, the 98-pound weakling who needs Adam Sandler to reassure the straights that we're just plain folks. And on television, gay people are, like, so five years ago. Now that we're no longer the flavor of the month, it's easier for networks and studios to leave us out of the recipe altogether. The EW article linked above is correct in pointing out that the networks are more gay-friendly than Hollywood studios, but a recent survey by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation showed that only 1.1% of characters on scripted network series are gay, and not a single one is on CBS, The CW, or (shocker!) Fox. That's a drastic underrepresentation of our presence in the population, and a failure of decency and nerve on the part of the people whose job it is to reflect the world back to us in entertainment — including the tremendous number of gay producers, writers, and executives who sacrifice their convictions so they don't look too ''strident'' or ''political.'' J.K. Rowling's announcement about Dumbledore isn't a plot twist. It's a challenge to look at the world — even a world of wizards and magic — as it really is. Kids are more than up to meeting it. I wish I could say the same about grown-ups.
Posted Oct 25, 2007 | Published in issue #962 Nov 02, 2007 |
Dumbledore: A Lovely Outing
Why J.K. Rowling's revelation is a rare positive sign at a particularly bad moment to be a gay consumer of pop culture
DUMBLEDORE J.K. Rowling's revelation about the Hogwarts headmaster is ''a challenge to look at the world — even a world of magic — as it really is,'' writes Harris
Murray Close
By Mark Harris Mark Harris
Mark Harris is a writer and former executive editor of EWNow she tells us? When I first heard that J.K. Rowling had revealed the homosexuality of Professor Albus Dumbledore, esteemed headmaster of Hogwarts, before a packed congregation of children and adults at Carnegie Hall on Oct. 19, my reaction was half appreciation, half annoyance. Ten years, seven books, 4,000 pages, and it never occurred to her to mention this before? At least she didn't make the gay character a fairy (or a troll), so we'll be spared those jokes, I thought. Rowling's announcement felt almost too strategic, a gotcha! she conveniently withheld until the multibillion-dollar revenue stream had had years to flow. And why bother? The outing of Dumbledore doesn't seriously reshape any plotline in the Harry Potter novels, nor do the books ever drop the kind of hints that would inspire questions from readers. Also, the saga is over, and Dumbledore's, you know, dead, so, like that infamous moment on Law & Order when viewers suddenly learned that one of the show's main characters was a lesbian literally 10 seconds before she left the series, it all seemed a bit easy.
It's not. Rowling is shrewd, but she's not an opportunist or a coward. One simple fact overrode my skepticism: She didn't have to do this. Not now, not later, not with two movies pending, and not in a roomful of kids. And make no mistake: All of these were choices, including her unveiling of a romantic backstory for Dumbledore, lest anyone think she was either joking or throwing a gratuitous pride-parade Patronus at the tiny band of flat-earthers whose shrieks that her books promote witchcraft were long ago drowned out by the world's giggles.
So why now, and why Dumbledore? The answer has much to do with the universe Rowling has created, in which easy assumptions about a character's motives, past, or inner life have, in book after book, been proven wrong, and with her own progressive and humane politics. It's often said that if every gay person in the world were to turn purple overnight, homophobia would disappear: In other words, fewer people would be inclined to vilify other human beings if they woke up one day and discovered that they'd been aiming stones at their college roommate, their aunt, their grocer, or their grandson. Statistics bear this out: People who have a gay family member or friend have more enlightened attitudes about homosexuality than those who don't.
What Rowling has done, brilliantly, is to turn Dumbledore purple. She didn't reveal his sexuality in order to unlock a new way of reading the books, or as a provocation. She simply told the world that a main character in the best-loved books of the last 10 years is homosexual, and asked her audience to contend with it — and with the fact that it shouldn't matter. And her choice to make a beloved professor-mentor gay in a world where gay teachers are still routinely slandered as malign influences was, I am certain, no accident.
In addition to the braying of hatemongers, there's already been some umbrage taken at the appropriateness of Rowling's decision to uncork this news in front of children, a brand of sanctimony for which I have no patience. At least one out of 25 of those children will eventually self-identify as homosexual. The other 24, having made their way through an epic series that includes multiple murders, demonic possession, and the psychic toll of having mentally ill parents, will, I imagine, be able to handle the bulletin that some people are gay, and will likely benefit from the richer understanding of the world that such knowledge provides.
This is not a great moment to be a gay consumer of pop culture. In mainstream movies, gay characters are almost nonexistent — we are, once again, the 98-pound weakling who needs Adam Sandler to reassure the straights that we're just plain folks. And on television, gay people are, like, so five years ago. Now that we're no longer the flavor of the month, it's easier for networks and studios to leave us out of the recipe altogether. The EW article linked above is correct in pointing out that the networks are more gay-friendly than Hollywood studios, but a recent survey by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation showed that only 1.1% of characters on scripted network series are gay, and not a single one is on CBS, The CW, or (shocker!) Fox. That's a drastic underrepresentation of our presence in the population, and a failure of decency and nerve on the part of the people whose job it is to reflect the world back to us in entertainment — including the tremendous number of gay producers, writers, and executives who sacrifice their convictions so they don't look too ''strident'' or ''political.'' J.K. Rowling's announcement about Dumbledore isn't a plot twist. It's a challenge to look at the world — even a world of wizards and magic — as it really is. Kids are more than up to meeting it. I wish I could say the same about grown-ups.
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The Greed of Facebook?
The Facebook is out of control. When Facebook first came out it was fun. It was simple, easy to use. I preferred it over MySpace anyday. Now the site is just simply out of control. There are way too many applications. And every time I download them I feel as if I am selling my soul. Its taking information about us and even lets us know that!! And its targeting the young, naive college/high school crowd who will download whatever, install this, upload that, put whatever private information they dare up online without so much as a second thought. And The Facebook is a great tool for marketing...with the thousands, probably millions of photos posted online. "The man" can see exactly what kids like and how to target them to buy their products. I am so over Facebook...does anyone else still remember when it was "The Facebook"? This article has made me want to take my page down. I hope that the greed of Facebook does cause it to implode. The world would be better off without Facebook. I hope this "social networking" bs is over soon.
This article says it all. So many points in this debate. Brings up everything I wanted to bring up in a much more eloquent way!
This article says it all. So many points in this debate. Brings up everything I wanted to bring up in a much more eloquent way!
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Male bods rule, Bud!
You have got to be kidding me. Who really cares if a character in a book is gay? Apparently even the sex life of a fictional character is juicy gossip for people everywhere. What I find to be even more interesting is the points this article brings up. Pointing out all of the literary elements JK Rowling included in order to keep Dumbledore in the closet. What I want to know are authors just genuises? Do they know they are adding these elements into their work...or is this created in the minds of readers and literary critics? I mean did JK Rowling stop and say she needed to put all of this into her book to make it the huge phenomenon that it is or did it just happen?
"Albus Dumbledore" is an anagram of "Male bods rule, bud!"
By Deborah Netburn, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 23, 2007
The Potter-verse was thrown for a loop when author J.K. Rowling announced she had always imagined one of the main characters in the "Harry Potter" series -- Albus Dumbledore -- to be gay.
Even the most diligent "Harry Potter" scholars found themselves caught unaware. But could anyone have seen this coming? Did Rowling leave any clues in the book?
To find out we called Andrew Slack, head of the Harry Potter Alliance, an organization that uses online organizing to mobilize more than 100,000 Harry Potter fans around social justice issues, drawing on parallels from the book. Slack is incredibly fluent in "Potter" textual analysis, and we knew that if anyone could predict Rowling's curveball, it would be him.
Speaking from his home in Boston, Slack said he hadn't guessed that Dumbledore was gay, but in hindsight, he was able to point to specific character traits of the Hogwarts headmaster that might have indicated his sexual orientation.
Below he tells us seven textual clues that Dumbledore was gay.
1. His pet. "Fawkes, the many-colored phoenix, is 'flaming.'"
2. His name. "While the anagram to 'Tom Marvolo Riddle' is 'I am Lord Voldemort,' as my good friend pointed out, 'Albus Dumbledore' becomes 'Male bods rule, bud!'"
3. His fashion sense. "Whether it's his 'purple cloak and high-heeled boots,' a 'flamboyantly cut suit of plum velvet,' a flowered bonnet at Christmas or his fascination with knitting patterns, Dumbledore defies the fashion standards of normative masculinity and, of course, this gives him a flair like no other. It's no wonder that even the uppity portrait of former headmaster Phineas Nigellus announced, 'You cannot deny he's got style.'"
4. His sensitivity. "Leaders like Cornelius Fudge, Rufus Scrimgeour and Dolores Umbridge (yes, even a woman) who are limited by the standards of normative masculinity could not fully embrace where Voldemort was weakest: in his capacity to love. Dumbledore understood that it's tougher to be vulnerable, to express one's feelings, and that one's undying love for friends and for life itself is a more powerful weapon than fear. Even his most selfish moments in pursuing the Deathly Hallows were motivated either by his feelings for Grindelwald or his wish to apologize to his late sister."
5. His openness. "After she outed Dumbledore, Rowling said that she viewed the whole series as a prolonged treatise on tolerance. Dumbledore is the personification of this. Like the LGBT community that has time and again used its own oppression to fight for the equality of others, Dumbledore was a champion for the rights of werewolves, giants, house elves, muggle-borns, centaurs, merpeople -- even alternative marriage. When it came time to decide whether the marriage between Lupin the werewolf and Tonks the full-blooded witch could be considered natural, Professor Minerva McGonagall said, 'Dumbledore would have been happier than anybody to think that there was a little more love in the world.'"
6. His historical parallel. "If Dumbledore were like any one in history, it would have to be Leonardo DaVinci. They both were considered eccentric geniuses ('He's a genius! Best wizard in the world! But he is a bit mad, yes'); both added a great deal to our body of knowledge (after all, Dumbledore did discover the 12 uses of dragon's blood!); both were solitary, both were considered warm, loving and incredibly calm; both dwelt in mysterious mystical realms; both spent a lot of time with their journals (Leonardo wrote his backwards while Dumbledore was constantly diving into his pensieve); both even had long hair! And, of course, a popular thought among many scholars is that the maestro Leonardo was gay."
7. The fact that so few of us realized he was gay. "No matter how many 'clues' I can put down that Dumbledore was gay, no matter how many millions of people have read these books again and again, Rowling surprised even the most die-hard fans with the announcement that Dumbledore was gay. And in the end, the fact that we never would have guessed is what makes Dumbledore being gay so real. So many times I have encountered friends who are gay that I never would have predicted. It has shown me that one's sexual orientation is not some obvious 'lifestyle choice,' it's a precious facet of our multi-faceted personalities. And in the end whatever the differences between our personalities are, it is time that our world heeds Dumbledore's advice: 'Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.' Today as I write this, I believe that it's time for our aims to be loyal to what the greatest wizard in the world would have wanted them to be: love."
"Albus Dumbledore" is an anagram of "Male bods rule, bud!"
By Deborah Netburn, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 23, 2007
The Potter-verse was thrown for a loop when author J.K. Rowling announced she had always imagined one of the main characters in the "Harry Potter" series -- Albus Dumbledore -- to be gay.
Even the most diligent "Harry Potter" scholars found themselves caught unaware. But could anyone have seen this coming? Did Rowling leave any clues in the book?
To find out we called Andrew Slack, head of the Harry Potter Alliance, an organization that uses online organizing to mobilize more than 100,000 Harry Potter fans around social justice issues, drawing on parallels from the book. Slack is incredibly fluent in "Potter" textual analysis, and we knew that if anyone could predict Rowling's curveball, it would be him.
Speaking from his home in Boston, Slack said he hadn't guessed that Dumbledore was gay, but in hindsight, he was able to point to specific character traits of the Hogwarts headmaster that might have indicated his sexual orientation.
Below he tells us seven textual clues that Dumbledore was gay.
1. His pet. "Fawkes, the many-colored phoenix, is 'flaming.'"
2. His name. "While the anagram to 'Tom Marvolo Riddle' is 'I am Lord Voldemort,' as my good friend pointed out, 'Albus Dumbledore' becomes 'Male bods rule, bud!'"
3. His fashion sense. "Whether it's his 'purple cloak and high-heeled boots,' a 'flamboyantly cut suit of plum velvet,' a flowered bonnet at Christmas or his fascination with knitting patterns, Dumbledore defies the fashion standards of normative masculinity and, of course, this gives him a flair like no other. It's no wonder that even the uppity portrait of former headmaster Phineas Nigellus announced, 'You cannot deny he's got style.'"
4. His sensitivity. "Leaders like Cornelius Fudge, Rufus Scrimgeour and Dolores Umbridge (yes, even a woman) who are limited by the standards of normative masculinity could not fully embrace where Voldemort was weakest: in his capacity to love. Dumbledore understood that it's tougher to be vulnerable, to express one's feelings, and that one's undying love for friends and for life itself is a more powerful weapon than fear. Even his most selfish moments in pursuing the Deathly Hallows were motivated either by his feelings for Grindelwald or his wish to apologize to his late sister."
5. His openness. "After she outed Dumbledore, Rowling said that she viewed the whole series as a prolonged treatise on tolerance. Dumbledore is the personification of this. Like the LGBT community that has time and again used its own oppression to fight for the equality of others, Dumbledore was a champion for the rights of werewolves, giants, house elves, muggle-borns, centaurs, merpeople -- even alternative marriage. When it came time to decide whether the marriage between Lupin the werewolf and Tonks the full-blooded witch could be considered natural, Professor Minerva McGonagall said, 'Dumbledore would have been happier than anybody to think that there was a little more love in the world.'"
6. His historical parallel. "If Dumbledore were like any one in history, it would have to be Leonardo DaVinci. They both were considered eccentric geniuses ('He's a genius! Best wizard in the world! But he is a bit mad, yes'); both added a great deal to our body of knowledge (after all, Dumbledore did discover the 12 uses of dragon's blood!); both were solitary, both were considered warm, loving and incredibly calm; both dwelt in mysterious mystical realms; both spent a lot of time with their journals (Leonardo wrote his backwards while Dumbledore was constantly diving into his pensieve); both even had long hair! And, of course, a popular thought among many scholars is that the maestro Leonardo was gay."
7. The fact that so few of us realized he was gay. "No matter how many 'clues' I can put down that Dumbledore was gay, no matter how many millions of people have read these books again and again, Rowling surprised even the most die-hard fans with the announcement that Dumbledore was gay. And in the end, the fact that we never would have guessed is what makes Dumbledore being gay so real. So many times I have encountered friends who are gay that I never would have predicted. It has shown me that one's sexual orientation is not some obvious 'lifestyle choice,' it's a precious facet of our multi-faceted personalities. And in the end whatever the differences between our personalities are, it is time that our world heeds Dumbledore's advice: 'Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.' Today as I write this, I believe that it's time for our aims to be loyal to what the greatest wizard in the world would have wanted them to be: love."
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Men really are beasts....
Potential Partner Selectiveness in Men Based on Desire to Reproduce
Shakespeare might have pondered, “To have or not to have: that is the question?” And the matter being pondered would be whether or not to have children. But back in his time, deciding whether or not to reproduce would have been left up to chance rather than a conscious decision. Fast forward several centuries and the decision to raise children is quite a debate among singles and couples alike. With readily available contraceptive devices, access to abortion, advanced career opportunities (for men and women), it is much easier in today’s world for people to become one of the ever increasing “voluntary childless” (Weston & Qu, 2001) or on the other hand have children on their own timeline.
The decision to become one of the voluntary childless stems from a number of factors which include, but are not limited to: concerns about aging, being without a current partner, having attention focused solely on career, beliefs that the world is not an optimal place for children to grow up anymore, a dislike for children, discouragement in their own abilities to raise children, economic reasons, and worries about the loss of freedom child-rearing would incur (Weston & Qu, 2001). Interestingly enough these notions which encourage a person to become one of the voluntary childless might stem from high levels of education, a high status position which includes a high income, and the less religious (Callan, 1983). Therefore, the implication is that the better educated one is the more alternative options they will know are available to them whether that concerns birth control options or knowing that better career options are available to them without children. The religious aspect of becoming voluntary childless is that there is no religious pressure to reproduce and no restrictions on the birth control methods one may entertain (Callan, 1983; Weston & Qu, 2001).
On the other side, deciding to have children is no less weighted with heavy options. The same problems the voluntary childless encounter are also encountered when people volunteer to become parents. It is just that voluntary parents decide the benefits of having children out weigh the benefits of not having children. Commonly cited benefits during a cost/benefit analysis of having children are a desire for love and affection, the fact that they love children, emotional fulfillment, and life satisfaction (Callan, 1983; Grewal & Urschel, 1994). Those who are voluntary parents see child rearing as a demanding yet rewarding venture. Furthermore, those who feel they are up to the task receive their satisfaction and build self-esteem for themselves through being a parent. Not everyone will receive satisfaction from parenting, but those who are voluntary parents seem to receive more satisfaction because they have waited for children to come at the right phase in their life (Soriano, Weston, Violet, & Kolar, 2001).
After pondering the question, “To have or not to have?” an individual then makes up his of her mind to volunteer or decline the task of child rearing. Although, Schreck concludes that childbearing intentions are rarely steadfast (1999), at least seven percent of the respondents in his work stayed consistent over a period of six years. Focusing on the different roles men and women take as parents, it is noted that the amount of time fathers spend with their children increases with the child’s age. This is in part because fathers are more often “playmates” of children where mothers take care of primarily physiological and emotional needs (Lips, 2005). The time that both parents spend on the job and in career related endeavors is inversely related to the amount of time they spend with their offspring. With men being the traditional primary breadwinners, it is no surprise that fathers end up as “playmates” and mothers as lifelines to the children (Kiger & Riley, 1996; Schreck, 1999).
When a man chooses to give up his own personal playtime to become a “playmate” to a child, the reasons for this are extremely varied. However, according to evolutionary theory all men should want to have children because it is a central aspiration to spread your genes into the next generation. Therefore reproducing would always be the most beneficial choice in choosing whether to have children even in today’s world where that ability to choose is so extremely available. One would assume that the men who have already decided to have children would be pursing a long-term sexual strategy and would therefore be more selective in the dating process about which women they would mate with. On the other side of these assumptions, men pursuing a short-term sexual strategy would be less selective in the dating process because they would not be concerned about a woman’s potential ability to reproduce and in what type of offspring she/they might produce because of their union (Buss & Schmitt, 1993). Another assumption taken from the parameters of long-term mating is that the male and female will mate for life and will ultimately raise offspring and become partners in this endeavor (Schmitt, Shackelford, & Buss, 2001). Taking into account these theories and assuming when men have decided to answer the question of whether to have children with the answer of have, then it can be decided that these men would be more selective in the dating process than those men who answer the question with a have not.
This selectiveness in a mate comes from a man deciding to have a high parental investment in his child and family. High parental investment includes being there for the child emotionally, physically, and monetarily (Buss, 1993). It boils down to a man making sure his investment is worthwhile by being selective about his future mate. Age range, distance, height, body type, smoking, drinking, ethnicity, faith, education, income, and prior relationships of the woman of interest would be of great concern to the man wanting to find a woman to mate with long-term.
To begin, men interested in having children should be more selective about the age range of their potential partner. According to Buss, the prime age range is somewhere around the age of 24 because this is when a woman is at her highest reproductive value. Any age range that is younger or older than this age decreases the reproductive value of females. Since a man is reproductively fertile at any age, his reproductive value stays the same throughout his life with his health factors held constant (1993). However, without pin pointing a single age that men are looking for, in general men date women the same age or younger than them. Men also are increasingly beginning to prefer older women who are well past reproductive value (Davis, 1998). The implications of this finding suggest that men who do want children will stick within the age range of fertile women and those men who choose to be voluntary childless will place less age restrictions on a partner.
Secondly, distance is a factor worthy of the potential male parent to consider. Men not looking to reproduce would be less selective about the distance to which they might have to travel in order to “hook-up” with a potential mate. It is understandable that most people end up mating with people in close proximity to them (Buss, 1993), but this theory might be somewhat outdated with the cyber world and American’s mobility opening up a completely new dating pool. Millions of potential matches can be conjured up in a matter of seconds and a prospect can be examined at length within 10 minutes, maybe even contacted in that same amount of time. It has also been shown by Houran that people with a sincere interest (those interested in long-term mating) in finding a partner through online dating can realistically find good matches (2004). Obviously this pool of millions is going to be spread all over the world, but those seriously looking for mates should be more selective and want to search for a pool within a certain amount of distance from themselves because absence has been proven not to make the heart grow fonder (Knox, Zusman, Daniels, & Brantley, 2002). The separation put in place by a long distance relationship made the efforts to stay together nearly impossible, with one out of five relationships dissolving and those who had been involved in a previous long distance relationship admitting they were very reluctant to try another one (Knox, et al., 2002).
Therefore, we have decided men who want to have children should be selective about the distance they are willing to travel for a potential mate, and most interestingly, these men should be interested and very selective about the attractiveness of their mate. Attractiveness has long been a sign of fertility and men interested in a fertile woman should be interested in her attractiveness because attractiveness signifies a healthy person (Buss, 1993). Body type and height are good predictors of health. A standard measure of healthy body type is a ratio of height to weight and known as the Body Mass Index (BMI), (NHBLI, 2004). Since people enjoy dating those similar to them, having a similar body type to a potential partner would increase the likelihood that a long-term dating event could work out and lead to reproduction (Buss, 1993; Bailey & Chorosevic, 1980). Using the evidence it is predicted that men who wish to have children would be more selective about the body type and height range of their potential partner. Having a partner with a body type and height similar to your own can help build self-esteem for both parties and add an extra dimension of attraction between the two parties which would lead to more long-term investment (Bailey & Chorosevic, 1980). A healthy partner aside from a healthy BMI would include a partner who was a non-smoker, and a non-drinker to a moderate drinker (NHBLI, 2004).
Another aspect that men wanting children would be expected to be more selective about would be the race of their partner, but in this particular instance, their selectivity may hurt their chances to reproduce. Attitudes toward interracial dating are met with an array of emotions. Many now feel it is politically incorrect to exclude all races other than your own from your dating pool however, it does often still happen. However, if men are seriously looking for someone to settle down with they should be less selective about the race of their partner (Todd, McKinney, Harris, Chadderton, & Small, 1992). After further investigation, Todd et al. concluded that when concerning the topic of interracial dating men, the young, and Caucasians were more positive. Furthermore, a larger percent of young and old African-American and Caucasian men stated that they would date outside their own race rather than stating that they would not (Todd, et al., 1992). This proves that when concerned with ethnicity of a potential mate men might not be as selective about dating other races, but men interested in more than just dating might be a tad more selective about which races they are willing to date when children are involved because of social relations and issues concerning biracial children (Allen,
1976).
Religion plays a central role in many people’s lives and most are looking to share that religious involvement and similar beliefs with their partner. This relates to the belief that similarity is crucial to mate selection (Argyle, 2000; Buss, 1985). Someone with a high level of religious involvement would be more likely to want to have children and therefore be more selective of a mate because they would want the mate to have a religious background like their own. Furthermore, Bailey & Garrou concluded that in a potential mate religious involvement is seen as highly desirable (1983). The religious person is seen as “more intelligent, more physically attractive, better adjusted, less selfish, more trustworthy, and more attractive” (Bailey & Garrou, 1983, p. 99). The implication here is that a religious man will be more selective about partner selection and more likely to want children. (Callan, 1983).
Referring back to education and its implications in childbearing decisions, people who comprise the growing number of voluntary childless are better educated and earn higher incomes than those who choose to have children (Magarick, 1975; Nason & Paloma, 1975; Houseknecht, 1979). Since the 1950’s many gender roles have changed and that change is most apparently seen within women (Lips, 2005). However, both males and females have shown more interest in having better educated and more intelligent mates. In 1977, men already were beginning to desire women with an education (Hoyt & Hudson, 1981). The assumption is that more education means more income. Going along with that assumption proves that both males and females are seeking mates with a good financial background (Buss, et al., 2001). Education and income go hand in hand here and it can be expected that men desiring children will be more selective about the income and education levels of their potential mate.
Lastly comes the question of whether or not people’s past relationships interfere with their child-bearing decisions. And it seems that past relationships do matter. Many new relationships in which one of the partners already has children tend to end up becoming childless relationships for the new couple. This factor seems to remain constant whether or not the new relationship with child stems from a divorce or widowing or a single parenthood situation (Weston & Qu, 2001). Past relationships would also seem to be a factor when looking into evolutionary dating theories. The long-term mating theory involves the implication that a man is there to provide resources for the woman and her offspring. Therefore, either way, a man with children already will have more people to divide his resources among and a woman with children will expect to have more resources sent her way (Buss, 1993). For the reasons listed above this current research only involves those who are childless at this point in time and either intend or do not intend to become parents.
In summary, men who are interested in investing time, energy, and financial backing into a long-term mating arrangement and having children within this arrangement will be more selective about their potential partner. Age range, distance, height, body type, smoking, drinking, ethnicity, faith, education, income, and prior relationships will be the factors in which a man will look into more closely before deciding upon a particular partner. This research should further enhance our understanding of the difference between men who want children and men who do not want children and what implications this has for women and dating.
Method
Participants
Two hundred heterosexual male participants were obtained through the online dating service Match.com, located at www.match.com. They were selected randomly using the following parameters: All participants were located within the United States and did not currently have any children. One hundred participants were found using the location and parental parameters listed above but were selected on the basis that they wanted to have children. The other 100 participants were obtained by using the same location and parental parameters but were selected on the basis that they do not want to have children. The age restrictions for searching were ages 18-120 years. This resulted in a male participant pool with an age range of 18-76 years.
Materials
A membership to Match.com, an online dating service, was needed in order to draw participants into the participant pool. A United States Census Bureau map was needed in order to have the States divided appropriately into region. (Appendix A)
Procedure
The researchers obtained free memberships to Match.com. After all participants were located within the online database within the parameters stated above, the demographic information about the participant was taken from the “Basics” category. Demographic information included was age, location by region, and race. Location was determined by regions within the United States as described by the U.S. Census Bureau. These regions consisted of Midwest, Northeast, South and West (Appendix A). Information also taken from the “Basics” category was the distance the male was willing to travel for a potential mate. Most participants stated a certain distance; however, when the participant stated they would date statewide the distance was entered as 250 miles. Additionally, when the participant stated they would date nationwide the distance was entered as 3000 miles.
The main focus was on the “About My Date” category. This is where the participant stated what he was looking for in a potential mate, as well as whether he would like to have children or not. This information taken from the “About My Date” category was then used as the measure of selectiveness. The data was then divided into the following relevant sub-categories out of the “About My Date” category: Age Range willing to date (years), Height Range willing to date (inches), Body Type willing to date, Ethnicity willing to date, Faith willing to date, Education willing to date, Income willing to date, Smoker (yes/no), Type of Drinker willing to date, and Past Relationships willing to date. The Age Range sub-category equaled the oldest age the participant was willing to date minus the youngest age the participant was willing to date in years. The Height Range sub-category was done similarly by subtracting the shortest height the participant was willing to date from the tallest height the participant was willing to date in inches. The remaining sub-categories are explained as follows. The Body Type willing to date sub-category included the following 10 available responses: slender, athletic and toned, about average, a few extra pounds, big and beautiful, full-figured, curvy, stocky, heavyset, and other. The Ethnicity sub-category willing to date consisted of the following nine responses: Asian, Black/African descent, East Indian, Latino/Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Native American, Pacific Islander, White/Caucasian, and Other. (As a side note here, if the participant considered himself multi-racial he was coded as being in the “Other” category). The Faith willing to date sub-category included the following 12 choices: Agnostic, Atheist, Buddhist/Taoist, Christian/Catholic, Christian/LDS, Christian/Protestant, Christian/Other, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim/Islam, Spiritual but not religious, and Other. The Education willing to date category included a possible seven responses: High school, Some college, Associates degree, Bachelors degree, Graduate degree, PhD/ Post Doctoral, and the School of life. The Income willing to date sub-category consisted of the following seven responses: Less than $25,000, $25,001-$35,000, $35,001-$50,000, $50,001-$75,000, $75,001-$100,000, $100,001-$150,000, and $150,001+. The Type of Drinker willing to drink sub-category had a possible four responses consisting of: Gave it up, Non-alcoholic beverages only, Social drinker-maybe one or two, and Regularly. The last sub-category was Past Relationships willing to date and this consisted of a possible six responses: Committed relationships but never married, Several committed relationships-but now single, Never been in a committed relationship, Currently separated, Divorced, and Widowed. For all of these sub-categories there were a maximum allowable number of responses from the participant. If the participant response to any particular sub-category was “Any” then the participant was assumed to be unselective in that sub-category and would then receive a number equaling the maximum number of allowable responses.
The Smoker sub-category was answered a little differently. This sub-category was coded with a simple yes/no. The available responses in the Smoker sub-category consisted of: No way, Occasionally, Cigar aficionado, Smokeless tobacco, Daily, Trying to quit. A yes response was given to those men who responded with “Any” and to those who selected several different responses in the category. A no response was only appropriate to those who responded that they wanted no smoking.
Results
The majority of the data were analyzed using 13 one-tailed independent samples t-tests. Unequal N’s were found across analyses due to participants not answering certain information in their Match.com profiles. Whether or not men wanted children was affected by the age of the male, t (198) =-10.89, p < .05. Men who wanted children were younger (M=29.46, SEM=.48) and the men who did not want children were older (M=44.03, SEM=1.25). Men who wanted children were more selective about the age range of women they were willing to date (M=12.71, SEM=1.06) than men who did not want children (M=15.28, SEM=.76). Men who wanted children tended to be more selective about their potential partner’s body type t (198) =1.8,
p =.073. Although not entirely significant men who wanted children tended to be less selective about a potential partner’s body type (M=4.77, SEM=.30) and men who did not want children tended to be more selective about a potential partner’s body type (M=4.03, SEM=.28). The distance, height range, ethnicity, faith, education, income, smoking habits, and drinking style of a potential partner did not prove to be categories in which men who wanted children were more selective than those who did not with the results proving to be non significant. The other two data sets were analyzed using a 2X7 (preference for children X race of male) chi-square. While the location of the male proved to be non significant in determining a man’s selectiveness, the race of the male had an effect on his desire to reproduce chi-square (6, N=200) =27.52, p<.05, with 14 percent variability in common. One hundred percent of Asians (n=3) expressed a desire to want children, 81.80 percent of Black/African Descent (n=11), 50.00 percent of East Indians (n=2), 75.00 percent of Latino/Hispanics (n=16), 100.00 percent of Middle Easterns (n=1), 39.00 of White/Caucasians (n=146), and 81.00 percent of Other/Mixed (n=21) wanted children.
Discussion
It was predicted that men who wanted children would be more selective about a potential mate, however, when broken down into categories only several factors seem to warrant more selectiveness and those factors were age and race of the male, age range of the mate. Interestingly, a marginal finding showed that men desiring children were actually less selective about a potential mate’s body type. Although the results were not entirely conclusive some interesting conclusions have been derived and opened the door for further research.
Men wanting children tended to be younger. This can be in part due to the fact that most men wanted to date someone close to their age and that would put the woman being younger also and closer to reproductive value. As far as older men not wanting children this can be due to the demands of child rearing and that can these older men simply are not up to the grueling task anymore. This is relevant to the research by Weston & Qu which concludes that one of the major factors which leads a person to be voluntary childless is concerns about aging (2001).
Along these same lines men wanting children were found to want a mate within a tighter age range. This is congruent with the evidence that points to the fact that men tend to date women in which are their age or younger (Davis, 1998). The men wanting children in this study wanted a mean age range of 12 years. Although this age range is a little wide compared to what Buss would have said (1993), this is due to a major fault of this study. It might have been more conclusive and reasonable to compare the men’s age to the actual age ranges that they were willing to date. The fault was taking the subtracting the ages and lumping it into a range instead of setting a high age willing to date and a low age willing to date. Interesting results might come from studying the actual age range and comparison to wanting children or not.
Against the hypothesis that men would be more selective about a potential mate’s body type, the results showed that men who wanted children were actually less selective. This could be for a variety of reasons, but most importantly it is probably because the man did not want to seem vain or aim too high in his online dating pursuits. These results could have also derived from a man simply not wanting to shut healthy women out of his dating pool. If he had described the waif like model type as all he would want to date, then he should know that most women are not like that in reality. Women who are too skinny have difficulty during pregnancy. This would fit with reproductive value research because the man wants a reproductively healthy woman and that includes a woman with some meat on her bones.
The most interesting finding however was that White/Caucasian men wanted children less than all of the other races did combined. Although the sample was majority White/Caucasian, these men were more likely to not want children. Further investigation into this topic would be very interesting.
With the distance, height range, ethnicity, faith, education, income, smoking habits, and drinking style of the potential partners for the males in this study coming up inconclusive, it might be due to the fact that since online dating covers such a broad range of people, the men might not want to narrow their visibility by being too selective about these topics. The outcome of narrowing their visibility to the dating pool might be worse and the men might feel that revealing this information is too personal.
In conclusion, the findings of this study reveal that deciding whether or not to have children is an intricate process. This study also shows that selectiveness in a potential partner varies a great deal based on a man’s desire to become a parent or not. The limitations of this study were a small sample size compared to the available data, the amount of selectiveness already allowed in online dating, and the lack of previous research in and about online dating.
References
Allen, B.P. (1976). Race and physical attractiveness as criteria for white subjects’ dating choices. Social and Behavior Personality, 4 92), 289-296.
Argyle, M. (2000). The effect of personality. In Psychology and Religion An Introduction (chap 3, pp.30-46). New York: Routledge.
Bailey, R.C. & Chorosevic. (1980). Congruency and accuracy of body build perceptions in dating couples. Social Behavior and Personality, 8 (1), 113-115.
Bailey, R.C. & Garrou, D.G. (1983). Dating availability and religious involvement as influences on interpersonal attraction. The Journal of Psychology, 113, 95-100.
Buss, D.M. (1985). Human mate selection. American Scientist, 73, 47-51.
Buss, D.M. & Schmitt, D.P. (1993). Sexual Strategies Theory: An Evolutionary Perspective on Human Mating, Psychological Review, 100, 204-232.
Buss, D.M., Shackelford, T.K., Kirkpatrick, L.A., & Larsen, R. (2001). A half century of mate preferences: the cultural evolution of values. Journal of Marriage & the Family, 63 (2), 491-492.
Callan, V. (1983). Childlessness and Partner Selection. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 45(1), 181-186. Retrieved March 22, 2005 from PSYCHinfo database.
Davis, A. (1998). Age differences in dating and marriage: Reproductive strategies or social preferences. Current Anthropology, 39 (3), 374-380. Retrieved March 31, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Grewal, R.P. & Urschel, J.D. (1994). Why women want children: a study during phases of parenthood. Journal of Social Psychology, 134 (4), 453-455. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Houran, J. & Lange, R. (2004). Expectations of finding a “soul mate” with online dating. North American Journal of Psychology, 6 (2), 297-308.
Housknecht, S.K. (1979).Childlessness and marital adjustment. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 41, 259-265.
Hoyt, L.L. & Hudson, J.W. (1981). Personal characteristics important in mate preference among college students. Social Behavior and Personality, 9 (1), 93-96.
Knox. D., Zusman, M., Daniels, V., & Brantley, A. (2002). Absence makes the heart grow fonder?: Long distance dating relationships among college students. College Student Journal, 36 (3), 364-366. Retrieved March 22, 2005, from Psychology and Behavioral Sciences Collection database.
Lips, H.M. (2005). Sex & Gender: An Introduction. Boston: McGraw Hill.
Magarick, R. (1975). Social and emotional aspects of voluntary childlessness in vasectomized childless men. Unpublished doctoral dissertation. University of Maryland.
Nason, E.M. & Paloma, M.M. (1975). Voluntary Childless Couples: The Emergence of a Variant Life Style. Beverly Hills: Sage Publications.
National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute. (2004). Calculate Your Body Mass Index. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm
Schreck, L. (1999). Men and women have similar fertility intentions, and many of reproductive age postpone childbearing. Family Planning Perspectives, 31 (5), 254-255. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
Schmitt, D.P., Shackelford, T.K., & Buss, D.M. (2001). Are men really more “oriented” toward short-term dating than women?, Psychology, Evolution, & Gender, 3 (3), 211-238. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Soriano, G., Weston, R., Violet, & Kolar (2001). Meeting the challenges of parenting. Family Matters, (58), 38-45. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
Todd, J., McKinney, J.L., Harris, R., Chadderton, R., & Small, L. (1992). Attitudes toward interracial dating: Effects of age, sex, and race. Journal of Multicultural Counseling & Development, 20 (4), 202-208.
Weston, R. & Qu, L. (2001). Men’s and women’s reasons for not having children. Family Matters, (58), 10-15. Retrieved March 22, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
Shakespeare might have pondered, “To have or not to have: that is the question?” And the matter being pondered would be whether or not to have children. But back in his time, deciding whether or not to reproduce would have been left up to chance rather than a conscious decision. Fast forward several centuries and the decision to raise children is quite a debate among singles and couples alike. With readily available contraceptive devices, access to abortion, advanced career opportunities (for men and women), it is much easier in today’s world for people to become one of the ever increasing “voluntary childless” (Weston & Qu, 2001) or on the other hand have children on their own timeline.
The decision to become one of the voluntary childless stems from a number of factors which include, but are not limited to: concerns about aging, being without a current partner, having attention focused solely on career, beliefs that the world is not an optimal place for children to grow up anymore, a dislike for children, discouragement in their own abilities to raise children, economic reasons, and worries about the loss of freedom child-rearing would incur (Weston & Qu, 2001). Interestingly enough these notions which encourage a person to become one of the voluntary childless might stem from high levels of education, a high status position which includes a high income, and the less religious (Callan, 1983). Therefore, the implication is that the better educated one is the more alternative options they will know are available to them whether that concerns birth control options or knowing that better career options are available to them without children. The religious aspect of becoming voluntary childless is that there is no religious pressure to reproduce and no restrictions on the birth control methods one may entertain (Callan, 1983; Weston & Qu, 2001).
On the other side, deciding to have children is no less weighted with heavy options. The same problems the voluntary childless encounter are also encountered when people volunteer to become parents. It is just that voluntary parents decide the benefits of having children out weigh the benefits of not having children. Commonly cited benefits during a cost/benefit analysis of having children are a desire for love and affection, the fact that they love children, emotional fulfillment, and life satisfaction (Callan, 1983; Grewal & Urschel, 1994). Those who are voluntary parents see child rearing as a demanding yet rewarding venture. Furthermore, those who feel they are up to the task receive their satisfaction and build self-esteem for themselves through being a parent. Not everyone will receive satisfaction from parenting, but those who are voluntary parents seem to receive more satisfaction because they have waited for children to come at the right phase in their life (Soriano, Weston, Violet, & Kolar, 2001).
After pondering the question, “To have or not to have?” an individual then makes up his of her mind to volunteer or decline the task of child rearing. Although, Schreck concludes that childbearing intentions are rarely steadfast (1999), at least seven percent of the respondents in his work stayed consistent over a period of six years. Focusing on the different roles men and women take as parents, it is noted that the amount of time fathers spend with their children increases with the child’s age. This is in part because fathers are more often “playmates” of children where mothers take care of primarily physiological and emotional needs (Lips, 2005). The time that both parents spend on the job and in career related endeavors is inversely related to the amount of time they spend with their offspring. With men being the traditional primary breadwinners, it is no surprise that fathers end up as “playmates” and mothers as lifelines to the children (Kiger & Riley, 1996; Schreck, 1999).
When a man chooses to give up his own personal playtime to become a “playmate” to a child, the reasons for this are extremely varied. However, according to evolutionary theory all men should want to have children because it is a central aspiration to spread your genes into the next generation. Therefore reproducing would always be the most beneficial choice in choosing whether to have children even in today’s world where that ability to choose is so extremely available. One would assume that the men who have already decided to have children would be pursing a long-term sexual strategy and would therefore be more selective in the dating process about which women they would mate with. On the other side of these assumptions, men pursuing a short-term sexual strategy would be less selective in the dating process because they would not be concerned about a woman’s potential ability to reproduce and in what type of offspring she/they might produce because of their union (Buss & Schmitt, 1993). Another assumption taken from the parameters of long-term mating is that the male and female will mate for life and will ultimately raise offspring and become partners in this endeavor (Schmitt, Shackelford, & Buss, 2001). Taking into account these theories and assuming when men have decided to answer the question of whether to have children with the answer of have, then it can be decided that these men would be more selective in the dating process than those men who answer the question with a have not.
This selectiveness in a mate comes from a man deciding to have a high parental investment in his child and family. High parental investment includes being there for the child emotionally, physically, and monetarily (Buss, 1993). It boils down to a man making sure his investment is worthwhile by being selective about his future mate. Age range, distance, height, body type, smoking, drinking, ethnicity, faith, education, income, and prior relationships of the woman of interest would be of great concern to the man wanting to find a woman to mate with long-term.
To begin, men interested in having children should be more selective about the age range of their potential partner. According to Buss, the prime age range is somewhere around the age of 24 because this is when a woman is at her highest reproductive value. Any age range that is younger or older than this age decreases the reproductive value of females. Since a man is reproductively fertile at any age, his reproductive value stays the same throughout his life with his health factors held constant (1993). However, without pin pointing a single age that men are looking for, in general men date women the same age or younger than them. Men also are increasingly beginning to prefer older women who are well past reproductive value (Davis, 1998). The implications of this finding suggest that men who do want children will stick within the age range of fertile women and those men who choose to be voluntary childless will place less age restrictions on a partner.
Secondly, distance is a factor worthy of the potential male parent to consider. Men not looking to reproduce would be less selective about the distance to which they might have to travel in order to “hook-up” with a potential mate. It is understandable that most people end up mating with people in close proximity to them (Buss, 1993), but this theory might be somewhat outdated with the cyber world and American’s mobility opening up a completely new dating pool. Millions of potential matches can be conjured up in a matter of seconds and a prospect can be examined at length within 10 minutes, maybe even contacted in that same amount of time. It has also been shown by Houran that people with a sincere interest (those interested in long-term mating) in finding a partner through online dating can realistically find good matches (2004). Obviously this pool of millions is going to be spread all over the world, but those seriously looking for mates should be more selective and want to search for a pool within a certain amount of distance from themselves because absence has been proven not to make the heart grow fonder (Knox, Zusman, Daniels, & Brantley, 2002). The separation put in place by a long distance relationship made the efforts to stay together nearly impossible, with one out of five relationships dissolving and those who had been involved in a previous long distance relationship admitting they were very reluctant to try another one (Knox, et al., 2002).
Therefore, we have decided men who want to have children should be selective about the distance they are willing to travel for a potential mate, and most interestingly, these men should be interested and very selective about the attractiveness of their mate. Attractiveness has long been a sign of fertility and men interested in a fertile woman should be interested in her attractiveness because attractiveness signifies a healthy person (Buss, 1993). Body type and height are good predictors of health. A standard measure of healthy body type is a ratio of height to weight and known as the Body Mass Index (BMI), (NHBLI, 2004). Since people enjoy dating those similar to them, having a similar body type to a potential partner would increase the likelihood that a long-term dating event could work out and lead to reproduction (Buss, 1993; Bailey & Chorosevic, 1980). Using the evidence it is predicted that men who wish to have children would be more selective about the body type and height range of their potential partner. Having a partner with a body type and height similar to your own can help build self-esteem for both parties and add an extra dimension of attraction between the two parties which would lead to more long-term investment (Bailey & Chorosevic, 1980). A healthy partner aside from a healthy BMI would include a partner who was a non-smoker, and a non-drinker to a moderate drinker (NHBLI, 2004).
Another aspect that men wanting children would be expected to be more selective about would be the race of their partner, but in this particular instance, their selectivity may hurt their chances to reproduce. Attitudes toward interracial dating are met with an array of emotions. Many now feel it is politically incorrect to exclude all races other than your own from your dating pool however, it does often still happen. However, if men are seriously looking for someone to settle down with they should be less selective about the race of their partner (Todd, McKinney, Harris, Chadderton, & Small, 1992). After further investigation, Todd et al. concluded that when concerning the topic of interracial dating men, the young, and Caucasians were more positive. Furthermore, a larger percent of young and old African-American and Caucasian men stated that they would date outside their own race rather than stating that they would not (Todd, et al., 1992). This proves that when concerned with ethnicity of a potential mate men might not be as selective about dating other races, but men interested in more than just dating might be a tad more selective about which races they are willing to date when children are involved because of social relations and issues concerning biracial children (Allen,
1976).
Religion plays a central role in many people’s lives and most are looking to share that religious involvement and similar beliefs with their partner. This relates to the belief that similarity is crucial to mate selection (Argyle, 2000; Buss, 1985). Someone with a high level of religious involvement would be more likely to want to have children and therefore be more selective of a mate because they would want the mate to have a religious background like their own. Furthermore, Bailey & Garrou concluded that in a potential mate religious involvement is seen as highly desirable (1983). The religious person is seen as “more intelligent, more physically attractive, better adjusted, less selfish, more trustworthy, and more attractive” (Bailey & Garrou, 1983, p. 99). The implication here is that a religious man will be more selective about partner selection and more likely to want children. (Callan, 1983).
Referring back to education and its implications in childbearing decisions, people who comprise the growing number of voluntary childless are better educated and earn higher incomes than those who choose to have children (Magarick, 1975; Nason & Paloma, 1975; Houseknecht, 1979). Since the 1950’s many gender roles have changed and that change is most apparently seen within women (Lips, 2005). However, both males and females have shown more interest in having better educated and more intelligent mates. In 1977, men already were beginning to desire women with an education (Hoyt & Hudson, 1981). The assumption is that more education means more income. Going along with that assumption proves that both males and females are seeking mates with a good financial background (Buss, et al., 2001). Education and income go hand in hand here and it can be expected that men desiring children will be more selective about the income and education levels of their potential mate.
Lastly comes the question of whether or not people’s past relationships interfere with their child-bearing decisions. And it seems that past relationships do matter. Many new relationships in which one of the partners already has children tend to end up becoming childless relationships for the new couple. This factor seems to remain constant whether or not the new relationship with child stems from a divorce or widowing or a single parenthood situation (Weston & Qu, 2001). Past relationships would also seem to be a factor when looking into evolutionary dating theories. The long-term mating theory involves the implication that a man is there to provide resources for the woman and her offspring. Therefore, either way, a man with children already will have more people to divide his resources among and a woman with children will expect to have more resources sent her way (Buss, 1993). For the reasons listed above this current research only involves those who are childless at this point in time and either intend or do not intend to become parents.
In summary, men who are interested in investing time, energy, and financial backing into a long-term mating arrangement and having children within this arrangement will be more selective about their potential partner. Age range, distance, height, body type, smoking, drinking, ethnicity, faith, education, income, and prior relationships will be the factors in which a man will look into more closely before deciding upon a particular partner. This research should further enhance our understanding of the difference between men who want children and men who do not want children and what implications this has for women and dating.
Method
Participants
Two hundred heterosexual male participants were obtained through the online dating service Match.com, located at www.match.com. They were selected randomly using the following parameters: All participants were located within the United States and did not currently have any children. One hundred participants were found using the location and parental parameters listed above but were selected on the basis that they wanted to have children. The other 100 participants were obtained by using the same location and parental parameters but were selected on the basis that they do not want to have children. The age restrictions for searching were ages 18-120 years. This resulted in a male participant pool with an age range of 18-76 years.
Materials
A membership to Match.com, an online dating service, was needed in order to draw participants into the participant pool. A United States Census Bureau map was needed in order to have the States divided appropriately into region. (Appendix A)
Procedure
The researchers obtained free memberships to Match.com. After all participants were located within the online database within the parameters stated above, the demographic information about the participant was taken from the “Basics” category. Demographic information included was age, location by region, and race. Location was determined by regions within the United States as described by the U.S. Census Bureau. These regions consisted of Midwest, Northeast, South and West (Appendix A). Information also taken from the “Basics” category was the distance the male was willing to travel for a potential mate. Most participants stated a certain distance; however, when the participant stated they would date statewide the distance was entered as 250 miles. Additionally, when the participant stated they would date nationwide the distance was entered as 3000 miles.
The main focus was on the “About My Date” category. This is where the participant stated what he was looking for in a potential mate, as well as whether he would like to have children or not. This information taken from the “About My Date” category was then used as the measure of selectiveness. The data was then divided into the following relevant sub-categories out of the “About My Date” category: Age Range willing to date (years), Height Range willing to date (inches), Body Type willing to date, Ethnicity willing to date, Faith willing to date, Education willing to date, Income willing to date, Smoker (yes/no), Type of Drinker willing to date, and Past Relationships willing to date. The Age Range sub-category equaled the oldest age the participant was willing to date minus the youngest age the participant was willing to date in years. The Height Range sub-category was done similarly by subtracting the shortest height the participant was willing to date from the tallest height the participant was willing to date in inches. The remaining sub-categories are explained as follows. The Body Type willing to date sub-category included the following 10 available responses: slender, athletic and toned, about average, a few extra pounds, big and beautiful, full-figured, curvy, stocky, heavyset, and other. The Ethnicity sub-category willing to date consisted of the following nine responses: Asian, Black/African descent, East Indian, Latino/Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Native American, Pacific Islander, White/Caucasian, and Other. (As a side note here, if the participant considered himself multi-racial he was coded as being in the “Other” category). The Faith willing to date sub-category included the following 12 choices: Agnostic, Atheist, Buddhist/Taoist, Christian/Catholic, Christian/LDS, Christian/Protestant, Christian/Other, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim/Islam, Spiritual but not religious, and Other. The Education willing to date category included a possible seven responses: High school, Some college, Associates degree, Bachelors degree, Graduate degree, PhD/ Post Doctoral, and the School of life. The Income willing to date sub-category consisted of the following seven responses: Less than $25,000, $25,001-$35,000, $35,001-$50,000, $50,001-$75,000, $75,001-$100,000, $100,001-$150,000, and $150,001+. The Type of Drinker willing to drink sub-category had a possible four responses consisting of: Gave it up, Non-alcoholic beverages only, Social drinker-maybe one or two, and Regularly. The last sub-category was Past Relationships willing to date and this consisted of a possible six responses: Committed relationships but never married, Several committed relationships-but now single, Never been in a committed relationship, Currently separated, Divorced, and Widowed. For all of these sub-categories there were a maximum allowable number of responses from the participant. If the participant response to any particular sub-category was “Any” then the participant was assumed to be unselective in that sub-category and would then receive a number equaling the maximum number of allowable responses.
The Smoker sub-category was answered a little differently. This sub-category was coded with a simple yes/no. The available responses in the Smoker sub-category consisted of: No way, Occasionally, Cigar aficionado, Smokeless tobacco, Daily, Trying to quit. A yes response was given to those men who responded with “Any” and to those who selected several different responses in the category. A no response was only appropriate to those who responded that they wanted no smoking.
Results
The majority of the data were analyzed using 13 one-tailed independent samples t-tests. Unequal N’s were found across analyses due to participants not answering certain information in their Match.com profiles. Whether or not men wanted children was affected by the age of the male, t (198) =-10.89, p < .05. Men who wanted children were younger (M=29.46, SEM=.48) and the men who did not want children were older (M=44.03, SEM=1.25). Men who wanted children were more selective about the age range of women they were willing to date (M=12.71, SEM=1.06) than men who did not want children (M=15.28, SEM=.76). Men who wanted children tended to be more selective about their potential partner’s body type t (198) =1.8,
p =.073. Although not entirely significant men who wanted children tended to be less selective about a potential partner’s body type (M=4.77, SEM=.30) and men who did not want children tended to be more selective about a potential partner’s body type (M=4.03, SEM=.28). The distance, height range, ethnicity, faith, education, income, smoking habits, and drinking style of a potential partner did not prove to be categories in which men who wanted children were more selective than those who did not with the results proving to be non significant. The other two data sets were analyzed using a 2X7 (preference for children X race of male) chi-square. While the location of the male proved to be non significant in determining a man’s selectiveness, the race of the male had an effect on his desire to reproduce chi-square (6, N=200) =27.52, p<.05, with 14 percent variability in common. One hundred percent of Asians (n=3) expressed a desire to want children, 81.80 percent of Black/African Descent (n=11), 50.00 percent of East Indians (n=2), 75.00 percent of Latino/Hispanics (n=16), 100.00 percent of Middle Easterns (n=1), 39.00 of White/Caucasians (n=146), and 81.00 percent of Other/Mixed (n=21) wanted children.
Discussion
It was predicted that men who wanted children would be more selective about a potential mate, however, when broken down into categories only several factors seem to warrant more selectiveness and those factors were age and race of the male, age range of the mate. Interestingly, a marginal finding showed that men desiring children were actually less selective about a potential mate’s body type. Although the results were not entirely conclusive some interesting conclusions have been derived and opened the door for further research.
Men wanting children tended to be younger. This can be in part due to the fact that most men wanted to date someone close to their age and that would put the woman being younger also and closer to reproductive value. As far as older men not wanting children this can be due to the demands of child rearing and that can these older men simply are not up to the grueling task anymore. This is relevant to the research by Weston & Qu which concludes that one of the major factors which leads a person to be voluntary childless is concerns about aging (2001).
Along these same lines men wanting children were found to want a mate within a tighter age range. This is congruent with the evidence that points to the fact that men tend to date women in which are their age or younger (Davis, 1998). The men wanting children in this study wanted a mean age range of 12 years. Although this age range is a little wide compared to what Buss would have said (1993), this is due to a major fault of this study. It might have been more conclusive and reasonable to compare the men’s age to the actual age ranges that they were willing to date. The fault was taking the subtracting the ages and lumping it into a range instead of setting a high age willing to date and a low age willing to date. Interesting results might come from studying the actual age range and comparison to wanting children or not.
Against the hypothesis that men would be more selective about a potential mate’s body type, the results showed that men who wanted children were actually less selective. This could be for a variety of reasons, but most importantly it is probably because the man did not want to seem vain or aim too high in his online dating pursuits. These results could have also derived from a man simply not wanting to shut healthy women out of his dating pool. If he had described the waif like model type as all he would want to date, then he should know that most women are not like that in reality. Women who are too skinny have difficulty during pregnancy. This would fit with reproductive value research because the man wants a reproductively healthy woman and that includes a woman with some meat on her bones.
The most interesting finding however was that White/Caucasian men wanted children less than all of the other races did combined. Although the sample was majority White/Caucasian, these men were more likely to not want children. Further investigation into this topic would be very interesting.
With the distance, height range, ethnicity, faith, education, income, smoking habits, and drinking style of the potential partners for the males in this study coming up inconclusive, it might be due to the fact that since online dating covers such a broad range of people, the men might not want to narrow their visibility by being too selective about these topics. The outcome of narrowing their visibility to the dating pool might be worse and the men might feel that revealing this information is too personal.
In conclusion, the findings of this study reveal that deciding whether or not to have children is an intricate process. This study also shows that selectiveness in a potential partner varies a great deal based on a man’s desire to become a parent or not. The limitations of this study were a small sample size compared to the available data, the amount of selectiveness already allowed in online dating, and the lack of previous research in and about online dating.
References
Allen, B.P. (1976). Race and physical attractiveness as criteria for white subjects’ dating choices. Social and Behavior Personality, 4 92), 289-296.
Argyle, M. (2000). The effect of personality. In Psychology and Religion An Introduction (chap 3, pp.30-46). New York: Routledge.
Bailey, R.C. & Chorosevic. (1980). Congruency and accuracy of body build perceptions in dating couples. Social Behavior and Personality, 8 (1), 113-115.
Bailey, R.C. & Garrou, D.G. (1983). Dating availability and religious involvement as influences on interpersonal attraction. The Journal of Psychology, 113, 95-100.
Buss, D.M. (1985). Human mate selection. American Scientist, 73, 47-51.
Buss, D.M. & Schmitt, D.P. (1993). Sexual Strategies Theory: An Evolutionary Perspective on Human Mating, Psychological Review, 100, 204-232.
Buss, D.M., Shackelford, T.K., Kirkpatrick, L.A., & Larsen, R. (2001). A half century of mate preferences: the cultural evolution of values. Journal of Marriage & the Family, 63 (2), 491-492.
Callan, V. (1983). Childlessness and Partner Selection. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 45(1), 181-186. Retrieved March 22, 2005 from PSYCHinfo database.
Davis, A. (1998). Age differences in dating and marriage: Reproductive strategies or social preferences. Current Anthropology, 39 (3), 374-380. Retrieved March 31, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Grewal, R.P. & Urschel, J.D. (1994). Why women want children: a study during phases of parenthood. Journal of Social Psychology, 134 (4), 453-455. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Houran, J. & Lange, R. (2004). Expectations of finding a “soul mate” with online dating. North American Journal of Psychology, 6 (2), 297-308.
Housknecht, S.K. (1979).Childlessness and marital adjustment. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 41, 259-265.
Hoyt, L.L. & Hudson, J.W. (1981). Personal characteristics important in mate preference among college students. Social Behavior and Personality, 9 (1), 93-96.
Knox. D., Zusman, M., Daniels, V., & Brantley, A. (2002). Absence makes the heart grow fonder?: Long distance dating relationships among college students. College Student Journal, 36 (3), 364-366. Retrieved March 22, 2005, from Psychology and Behavioral Sciences Collection database.
Lips, H.M. (2005). Sex & Gender: An Introduction. Boston: McGraw Hill.
Magarick, R. (1975). Social and emotional aspects of voluntary childlessness in vasectomized childless men. Unpublished doctoral dissertation. University of Maryland.
Nason, E.M. & Paloma, M.M. (1975). Voluntary Childless Couples: The Emergence of a Variant Life Style. Beverly Hills: Sage Publications.
National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute. (2004). Calculate Your Body Mass Index. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm
Schreck, L. (1999). Men and women have similar fertility intentions, and many of reproductive age postpone childbearing. Family Planning Perspectives, 31 (5), 254-255. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
Schmitt, D.P., Shackelford, T.K., & Buss, D.M. (2001). Are men really more “oriented” toward short-term dating than women?, Psychology, Evolution, & Gender, 3 (3), 211-238. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Academic Search Premier database.
Soriano, G., Weston, R., Violet, & Kolar (2001). Meeting the challenges of parenting. Family Matters, (58), 38-45. Retrieved March 24, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
Todd, J., McKinney, J.L., Harris, R., Chadderton, R., & Small, L. (1992). Attitudes toward interracial dating: Effects of age, sex, and race. Journal of Multicultural Counseling & Development, 20 (4), 202-208.
Weston, R. & Qu, L. (2001). Men’s and women’s reasons for not having children. Family Matters, (58), 10-15. Retrieved March 22, 2005, from Sociological Collection database.
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Bush, Hitler, Patriot Act, Fall of an Empire?
I started out my morning reading about the seriousness of the drought we are having here in Georgia. Article after article implies that everyone knew about the potential issues, everyone blamed someone else, and no one did anything. This then lead me into people blaming global warming for the drought. This is completely opposite to what I have heard before about the catostraphic flooding and loss of land due to the flooding. No in fact, people are saying global warming is going to create more of a problem with drought.
There are 2 sides to every story and of course all of this is pure speculation backed up by scientific experimentation, but we will never know the truth until it happens right? And then the scientist who have been studying and experimenting so long will only then find the flaws in their research and say ooohhhh....we were wrong....or we were kind of right.
This is all beside the fact of what I have found to be my most interesting discovery today. This drought and global warming issue brought up the effects it would have on the economy...notions water would also soon become a private commodity. Since everything in the universe is related, I started feeling like the world is coming to an end. Dont laugh....so then I looked up information on the rise and fall of empires. I found some great information. It is really interesting and I think its true. Nothing lasts forever right? So maybe the world isnt coming to an end...maybe just the end of the world as we know it is coming to an end. History definately repeats itself...
Check this out.
http://smarteconomy.typepad.com/smart_economy/2006/10/the_fall_of_emp.html
There are 2 sides to every story and of course all of this is pure speculation backed up by scientific experimentation, but we will never know the truth until it happens right? And then the scientist who have been studying and experimenting so long will only then find the flaws in their research and say ooohhhh....we were wrong....or we were kind of right.
This is all beside the fact of what I have found to be my most interesting discovery today. This drought and global warming issue brought up the effects it would have on the economy...notions water would also soon become a private commodity. Since everything in the universe is related, I started feeling like the world is coming to an end. Dont laugh....so then I looked up information on the rise and fall of empires. I found some great information. It is really interesting and I think its true. Nothing lasts forever right? So maybe the world isnt coming to an end...maybe just the end of the world as we know it is coming to an end. History definately repeats itself...
Check this out.
http://smarteconomy.typepad.com/smart_economy/2006/10/the_fall_of_emp.html
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Its a Small World after All...and getting smaller....
I mean Myspace users being able to phone each other even more convienently than before?? I dont know...this is just craziness...sounds like its posing a potential for a great many more problems.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710170918DOWJONESDJONLINE000562_FORTUNE5.htm">http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710170918DOWJONESDJONLINE000562_FORTUNE5.htm
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710170918DOWJONESDJONLINE000562_FORTUNE5.htm">http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710170918DOWJONESDJONLINE000562_FORTUNE5.htm
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Does any of this make any sense to you?
Just read this. I dont know what to say about this except you must read it.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/news/2007/09/19/inmate_sues_terri/
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/news/2007/09/19/inmate_sues_terri/
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I never cease to be amazed...
The shannigans continue! I stumbled across an article in which Britney Spears was threatening suicide to K-Fed over this whole custody/visitation battle. This threat does not surprise me and with the dramatic nature of Ms. Spears, but it was the rest of the article that went on to talk about how Kevin's ex Shar Jackson is now going to be putting out an album??? What?? Does everyone in Hollywood think they should be an artist? This CD will most definately be filed in the back of music stores along with albums by Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, The Olsen Twins, K-Fed, and Heidi Montag featuring Spencer Pratt on the mic...
Then in an even more bizarre twist I found an article about a man in prison who wants to sue Britney. http://www.actressarchives.com/news.php?id=8380
Apparently he tries to sue celebrities from his jail cell all the time. I find this absolutely hilarious and will have to further investigate this man.
Then in an even more bizarre twist I found an article about a man in prison who wants to sue Britney. http://www.actressarchives.com/news.php?id=8380
Apparently he tries to sue celebrities from his jail cell all the time. I find this absolutely hilarious and will have to further investigate this man.
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More on the Conspiracy
Maybe I am just a sucker, naive, or just always up for a good what if, but this article brings up even more points about the Katrina levee conspiracy theory. This time it involves the CIA and a gun battle on a bridge, and Ray Nagin and a fear of the CIA, and news stories brushed under the rug. Drama, drama, drama, but I love it! Read on my friend.
By Ernesto CienfuegosLa Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - September 7, 2005 - (ACN)
Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breeched levy. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said later that those killed were "federal contractors" on their way to"repair" a canal. The "contractors" were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to "fix" the 17th Street Canal, according to the Army Corps of Engineers spokesman. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New Orleans later reported that his policemen had shot at eight suspicious people near the breached levee, killing five or six.
By Ernesto CienfuegosLa Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - September 7, 2005 - (ACN)
There were numerous incidents that occurred during and immediately after Katrina struck that point to the "unthinkable.” It now appears that a sophisticated plan was implemented that utilized the "cover of a hurricane" to first destroy and than take over the City of New Orleans. As the world watched the events unfolding, one could not help think that something was terribly afoot concerning the rescue by FEMA of the city's poor and predominate Black population. It seems that a well laid out plan was put into effect to grab valuable real estate from well established but poverty stricken Black families of New Orleans. What is being implemented now is nothing less than a sophisticated scheme to purge and ethnically cleanse what some have termed "Black and 'welfare bloated' New Orleans.”
Among the most telling anomalies pointing to something terribly afoot is the gun battle, killing 5, that occurred at the breached levee between the New Orleans Police Department and what have now been identified as US military agents. An Associated Press report, which has now disappeared, stated that at least five USA Defense Department personnel where shot dead by New Orleans police officers in the proximity of the breeched levy. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said later that those killed were "federal contractors" on their way to"repair" a canal. The "contractors" were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to "fix" the 17th Street Canal, according to the Army Corps of Engineers spokesman. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New Orleans later reported that his policemen had shot at eight suspicious people near the breached levee, killing five or six.
Who were these "military agents" that were killed by the police near the 17th Street Canal breeched levee and what were they doing there? Why did the New Orleans police find it necessary to shoot and kill 5 or 6 of them? No one is saying anything and it appears that the news story has now been swept under the rug. Were these US Department of Defense personnel a Special Forces group or Navy Seals with top secret orders to sabotage the levee? There are verifiable reports that at least 100 New Orleans police officers have disappeared from the face of the earth and that two have committed suicide.
Could these be policemen that died defending the levee against sabotage by "federal contractors"? Another telling incident that points to a "nefarious plan" is what New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said at the height of the crisis. He said publicly, "I fear the CIA may take me out!" Mayor Nagin, a Black, said this twice. He told a reporter for the Associated Press: "If the CIA slips me something and next week you don't see me, you'll all know what happened." Later he told interviewers for CNN on a live broadcast that he feared the "CIA might take me out." What does Mayor Ray Nagin know and why does he fear the CIA?
In an interview by WWL TV, Mayor Nagin complained vociferously that Louisiana National Guard Blackhawk helicopters were being stopped from dropping sandbags to plug the levee soon after it breeched. There is evidence that no repairs were allowed on the levee until after New Orleans was totally flooded! Many civilian groups who were attempting to aid people trapped in their attics, on their roofs and at the Superdome are reporting that FEMA, other federal agents and the US military essentially "stopped" them from doing so. Convoys that were organized by truckers and carrying "food and water" were blocked by agents of the federal government on the highways and roads leading to New Orleans. The American Red Cross, in addition, encountered numerous incidents and has made formal complaints.
A private ham radio network that deployed throughout the hurricane ravished region reported that the airwaves were being "jammed" making it impossible to communicate emergency information. Churches, hospitals and other essential community groups reported that the first thing that the US military did, when they arrived, was to cut their telephone lines and confiscate communication devices. We all witnessed news reports and heard statements by flood victims concerning the behavior of the US military. Many Black families complained that military vehicles did not stop to assist them but just drove by. One news report showed military personnel playing cards inside a barrack while Black citizens were dying of thirst and hunger.
Today, it is very revealing how the federal government is handling the disaster. They want every Black out of New Orleans and those who insist on staying in their homes will be removed by force. The government, through some media, http://tbwt.org is utilizing scare tactics to cleanse New Orleans of all Blacks. They want no witnesses and this will make the "land grab" a lot easier to undertake. One scare tactic is calling the flood water “a horrid toxic soup of feces and rotting flesh of corpses.” (Everyone knows that most of this country's swamp/water land was filled in and built upon). The military thugs are now getting tough with Black families who have owned their old but beloved homes for many generations. Mr. Rufus Johnson, a family patriarch who lives in the French Quarter, said in an interview, “The army has given me an ultimatum to leave or suffer the consequences of a forced eviction. I do not understand. My entire family and I survived Katrina and now they want to throw me out of the home we have had for generations.” Mr. Johnson lives in a neighborhood where the flood has subsided and his home is not heavily damaged yet FEMA wants him out!
The fact that Vice President Dick Cheney is heavily involved in the FEMA operations from behind the scenes is very troublesome. Cheney and his cronies at Halliburton are in line for the lucrative contracts to "reconstruct a New Orleans." Deals are already being made with a Las Vegas business group to construct multi-million dollar casinos in the Big Easy on prime real estate that was owned by Black families. Whites throughout history have been notorious "land grabbers." In the USA they first confiscated land that belonged to American Indians. Most of the Indians ended up in worthless tracts of land called "reservations." The largest "land grab," however, was the theft of Aztlan. This occurred soon after the Mexican-American War. In Alta California , vast "Ranchos" were stolen from the Californios through a variety of scams. A favorite ploy was to impose extremely heavy land taxes on the Mexicans and then foreclosing on the properties. The land was then given or sold at very low prices to the Forty Niners who came in large hordes to Alta California during the so called "Gold Rush" of 1849
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Katrina Conspiracy Theory
I have no idea how these stories escaped me 2 years ago, as the author of this article says a conspiracy bug is going around and it must have bitten me when I was born because people wouldnt think of this craziness unless at least parts of it were true....read on my friends.
Chasing a Katrina Conspiracy
By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Pacific News Service. Posted September 28, 2005.
The latest conspiracy theory making the rounds is that New Orleans' levees were deliberately destroyed.
In the weeks since Katrina hit, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a slew of activists, and bloggers have spun a huge tale of wicked intrigue about the hurricane. Katrina, so the conspiracy theory goes, provided the perfect and long awaited pretext for either the Army Corp of Engineers, secret government agents, the Klan, FEMA operatives, corporate real estate interests, or unnamed forces to blow the levees in New Orleans and send torrents of waters raging through the city's poorest black neighborhoods.
The aim of the plot, depending on who spoke, was to kill blacks, protect the white, upper income areas from flooding, gut political strength in New Orleans, or grab black homes and land at fire sale prices and dump pricey condominiums, townhouses, upscale malls and gallerias in their neighborhoods.
To prove their point, the conspiracy theorists cited random remarks made by a handful of tired, distraught and bitter evacuees camped in the Houston Astrodome. They claimed to have heard explosions immediately before the levees broke, and they lambasted Bush and the federal government for their inaction.
This conspiracy theory would have been relegated to a fringe corner on obscure websites if Farrakhan hadn't fanned it in a speech in North Carolina a couple of weeks after Katrina struck. A bevy of conservative talk show jocks quickly pounced on it. That gave them yet another foil to use to deflect heat from Bush's bungled relief response. They railed at Farrakhan for stirring black paranoia and anti-white hatred.
There is absolutely no proof that the levees were deliberately blown. The predominantly black 9th Ward in New Orleans was not the only section of the city flooded. The flood devastated racially mixed residential areas, some white middle-income neighborhoods in New Orleans, and other Gulf Coast towns. The levees broke because of age, poor maintenance, and the millions that Bush slashed from the 2005 budget earmarked for their repair. Experts also note that explosions and sudden noises can occur during maximum force hurricanes. They attribute it to the tremendous build up of water pressure, high winds, and power outages.
During the past two decades, redevelopment agencies, developers, land speculators and young, white, middle income home buyers have transformed deteriorating inner city neighborhoods into gentrified, upscale residential and business areas complete with lofts, townhouses and trendy shops. They didn't need a hurricane or natural disaster to do that.
The belief that the Katrina disaster was anything other than a confluence of Bush bungling, budget cutting folly and nature's wrath is no surprise. The conspiracy bug has long bit many Americans. There are packs of groups that span the political spectrum that include Aryan Nation racists, Millennium Christian fundamentalists, anti-Semitic crackpots, and fringe left radicals. Their Internet sites bristle with purported official documents that detail and expose alleged plots.
These groups and thousands of individuals believe that government, corporate, or international Zionist groups busily hatch secret plots, and concoct hidden plans to wreak havoc on their lives. Hollywood and the TV industry have also honed in on the conspiracy act. They churn out countless movies and TV shows in which shadowy government groups topple foreign governments, assassinate government leaders and brainwash operatives to do dirty deeds.
A near textbook example of that was the theory spun by an Idaho meteorologist. He claimed that a Japanese Yakuza crime group used a Russian Cold War era generator to trigger Katrina. This supposedly was punishment for the Hiroshima atom bomb attack. The theory was fantastic nonsense, but the Associated Press and USA Today took it seriously enough to treat it as a legitimate news item, with quotes from experts to refute it.
The conspiracy bug bit many blacks especially hard in the 1960s. They claimed that murky government agencies flooded the ghettoes with drugs, alcohol, gangs and guns to sow division and disunity among black organizations, eliminate militant black leaders, jail black politicians and quash black activism.
The racial conspiracy theorists at least had a suspect to point the finger at, and that was the FBI. For years, it waged a disgraceful, relentless, and illegal war against Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights leaders. That was hardly the case in the Katrina catastrophe. There was no single suspect that anyone could blame the disaster on. Farrakhan declined to finger any person or group that he believed blew up the levee. It would have required hard evidence and expert testimony to boost the contention that Katrina was an anti-black plot.
New Orleans was the culmination of a half-decade of the Bush administration's costly and reckless war, as well as fiscal policies that have resulted in the neglect and deterioration of the nation's roads, bridges, tunnels and levees. That neglect forced thousands of poor blacks in New Orleans to flee for their lives. And there was no hidden hand in that.
I totally agree that there is a little paranoia a little truth to all of these stories they mention in this article. But going back to the main point, the Katrina levee issue. I have found another article talking about how at one point in time the levees were blown up intentionally and by the government nonetheless. History repeats itself. The history of the world repeats itself, the history of war repeats itself, even the history of our own teeny tiny lives repeats itself. Everything is cyclical. Take a lot at this article now and let me know what you think!
Another Flood That Stunned America
For days, the rain fell. The rivers swelled, the lakes rose. And when the water could no longer find a place to go, it battered the weakest parts of the levees that had protected thousands of people and blew through, sending a surge of white-capped brown water faster than the spill of Niagara Falls.
So began the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, the most catastrophic deluge ever to hit the South and one of the worst natural disasters in U.S. history.
The seminal event of pre-integration southern politics, the 1927 flood inundated an area about half the size of New England. It killed as many as 1,000 people and displaced about 700,000 more. At a time when the entire federal budget was barely $3 billion, it caused an estimated $1 billion in damage.
Most significant for the course of America, however, the tragedy hastened the mass migration of African-Americans to northern cities and marked the beginning of the end of southern sharecropping. "You'd say, 'I'd like to talk to you about the 1927 flood,' and you didn't need to explain anything else," says Pete Daniel, author of Deep'n As It Come: The 1927 Mississippi River Flood. "It was the most significant event of their lives."
The 1927 flood spared New Orleans, yet parallels to the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are hard to miss. Authorities were ill-prepared to deal with refugees, and the brunt of the damage was borne by poor blacks unable to get to high ground.
Like Katrina, the tragedy was in many ways born of man's hubris--fitting because New Orleans itself grew out of man's assumption that he could control nature, no matter how stubborn nature was. The city was founded in 1718 by Jean Baptiste Le Moyne de Bienville on a piece of high ground between the Mississippi and Lake Pontchartrain. It was built below grade, against the advice of engineers. Pumps and canals, its founders thought, would handle the water.
Over the centuries, the same attitude would direct development of the rest of the lower Mississippi. Earthen levees rose ever higher to corral the river in its channel. But they have come at a price: The same volume of water just moves faster through a smaller space, scouring the channel and weakening the levees from below.
When the rains broke records in April 1927, the Gulf of Mexico was full and worked as a stopper to the Mississippi. The Mississippi was full, too, pushing its own waters up tributaries, breaking levees and causing flooding as far as Ohio and Texas. All that water had to go somewhere.
It couldn't go to New Orleans, panicky city fathers told the Army Corps of Engineers; it would devastate the regional economy.
To save New Orleans, the leaders proposed a radical plan. South of the city, the population was mostly rural and poor. The leaders appealed to the federal government to essentially sacrifice those parishes by blowing up an earthen levee and diverting the water to marshland. They promised restitution to people who would lose their homes. Government officials, including Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover, signed off.
On April 29, the levee at Caernarvon, 13 miles south of New Orleans, succumbed to 39 tons of dynamite. The river rushed through at 250,000 cubic feet per second. New Orleans was saved, but the misery of the flooded parishes had only started. The city fathers took years to make good on their promises, and very few residents ever saw any compensation at all.
The water, which had started rising on Good Friday, would not recede until July. Many victims would never return to their homes. Hoover, who won support for leading relief efforts, went on to win the presidential election. And the Corps of Engineers, who had said the levees would hold, was humbled. Says Daniel: "People complained about the corps . . . but they never blamed the river. They understood: 'That's the river. That's nature. That's what it's supposed to be doing.' "
This story appears in the September 12, 2005 print edition of U.S. News & World Report.
Chasing a Katrina Conspiracy
By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Pacific News Service. Posted September 28, 2005.
The latest conspiracy theory making the rounds is that New Orleans' levees were deliberately destroyed.
In the weeks since Katrina hit, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a slew of activists, and bloggers have spun a huge tale of wicked intrigue about the hurricane. Katrina, so the conspiracy theory goes, provided the perfect and long awaited pretext for either the Army Corp of Engineers, secret government agents, the Klan, FEMA operatives, corporate real estate interests, or unnamed forces to blow the levees in New Orleans and send torrents of waters raging through the city's poorest black neighborhoods.
The aim of the plot, depending on who spoke, was to kill blacks, protect the white, upper income areas from flooding, gut political strength in New Orleans, or grab black homes and land at fire sale prices and dump pricey condominiums, townhouses, upscale malls and gallerias in their neighborhoods.
To prove their point, the conspiracy theorists cited random remarks made by a handful of tired, distraught and bitter evacuees camped in the Houston Astrodome. They claimed to have heard explosions immediately before the levees broke, and they lambasted Bush and the federal government for their inaction.
This conspiracy theory would have been relegated to a fringe corner on obscure websites if Farrakhan hadn't fanned it in a speech in North Carolina a couple of weeks after Katrina struck. A bevy of conservative talk show jocks quickly pounced on it. That gave them yet another foil to use to deflect heat from Bush's bungled relief response. They railed at Farrakhan for stirring black paranoia and anti-white hatred.
There is absolutely no proof that the levees were deliberately blown. The predominantly black 9th Ward in New Orleans was not the only section of the city flooded. The flood devastated racially mixed residential areas, some white middle-income neighborhoods in New Orleans, and other Gulf Coast towns. The levees broke because of age, poor maintenance, and the millions that Bush slashed from the 2005 budget earmarked for their repair. Experts also note that explosions and sudden noises can occur during maximum force hurricanes. They attribute it to the tremendous build up of water pressure, high winds, and power outages.
During the past two decades, redevelopment agencies, developers, land speculators and young, white, middle income home buyers have transformed deteriorating inner city neighborhoods into gentrified, upscale residential and business areas complete with lofts, townhouses and trendy shops. They didn't need a hurricane or natural disaster to do that.
The belief that the Katrina disaster was anything other than a confluence of Bush bungling, budget cutting folly and nature's wrath is no surprise. The conspiracy bug has long bit many Americans. There are packs of groups that span the political spectrum that include Aryan Nation racists, Millennium Christian fundamentalists, anti-Semitic crackpots, and fringe left radicals. Their Internet sites bristle with purported official documents that detail and expose alleged plots.
These groups and thousands of individuals believe that government, corporate, or international Zionist groups busily hatch secret plots, and concoct hidden plans to wreak havoc on their lives. Hollywood and the TV industry have also honed in on the conspiracy act. They churn out countless movies and TV shows in which shadowy government groups topple foreign governments, assassinate government leaders and brainwash operatives to do dirty deeds.
A near textbook example of that was the theory spun by an Idaho meteorologist. He claimed that a Japanese Yakuza crime group used a Russian Cold War era generator to trigger Katrina. This supposedly was punishment for the Hiroshima atom bomb attack. The theory was fantastic nonsense, but the Associated Press and USA Today took it seriously enough to treat it as a legitimate news item, with quotes from experts to refute it.
The conspiracy bug bit many blacks especially hard in the 1960s. They claimed that murky government agencies flooded the ghettoes with drugs, alcohol, gangs and guns to sow division and disunity among black organizations, eliminate militant black leaders, jail black politicians and quash black activism.
The racial conspiracy theorists at least had a suspect to point the finger at, and that was the FBI. For years, it waged a disgraceful, relentless, and illegal war against Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights leaders. That was hardly the case in the Katrina catastrophe. There was no single suspect that anyone could blame the disaster on. Farrakhan declined to finger any person or group that he believed blew up the levee. It would have required hard evidence and expert testimony to boost the contention that Katrina was an anti-black plot.
New Orleans was the culmination of a half-decade of the Bush administration's costly and reckless war, as well as fiscal policies that have resulted in the neglect and deterioration of the nation's roads, bridges, tunnels and levees. That neglect forced thousands of poor blacks in New Orleans to flee for their lives. And there was no hidden hand in that.
I totally agree that there is a little paranoia a little truth to all of these stories they mention in this article. But going back to the main point, the Katrina levee issue. I have found another article talking about how at one point in time the levees were blown up intentionally and by the government nonetheless. History repeats itself. The history of the world repeats itself, the history of war repeats itself, even the history of our own teeny tiny lives repeats itself. Everything is cyclical. Take a lot at this article now and let me know what you think!
Another Flood That Stunned America
For days, the rain fell. The rivers swelled, the lakes rose. And when the water could no longer find a place to go, it battered the weakest parts of the levees that had protected thousands of people and blew through, sending a surge of white-capped brown water faster than the spill of Niagara Falls.
So began the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, the most catastrophic deluge ever to hit the South and one of the worst natural disasters in U.S. history.
The seminal event of pre-integration southern politics, the 1927 flood inundated an area about half the size of New England. It killed as many as 1,000 people and displaced about 700,000 more. At a time when the entire federal budget was barely $3 billion, it caused an estimated $1 billion in damage.
Most significant for the course of America, however, the tragedy hastened the mass migration of African-Americans to northern cities and marked the beginning of the end of southern sharecropping. "You'd say, 'I'd like to talk to you about the 1927 flood,' and you didn't need to explain anything else," says Pete Daniel, author of Deep'n As It Come: The 1927 Mississippi River Flood. "It was the most significant event of their lives."
The 1927 flood spared New Orleans, yet parallels to the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are hard to miss. Authorities were ill-prepared to deal with refugees, and the brunt of the damage was borne by poor blacks unable to get to high ground.
Like Katrina, the tragedy was in many ways born of man's hubris--fitting because New Orleans itself grew out of man's assumption that he could control nature, no matter how stubborn nature was. The city was founded in 1718 by Jean Baptiste Le Moyne de Bienville on a piece of high ground between the Mississippi and Lake Pontchartrain. It was built below grade, against the advice of engineers. Pumps and canals, its founders thought, would handle the water.
Over the centuries, the same attitude would direct development of the rest of the lower Mississippi. Earthen levees rose ever higher to corral the river in its channel. But they have come at a price: The same volume of water just moves faster through a smaller space, scouring the channel and weakening the levees from below.
When the rains broke records in April 1927, the Gulf of Mexico was full and worked as a stopper to the Mississippi. The Mississippi was full, too, pushing its own waters up tributaries, breaking levees and causing flooding as far as Ohio and Texas. All that water had to go somewhere.
It couldn't go to New Orleans, panicky city fathers told the Army Corps of Engineers; it would devastate the regional economy.
To save New Orleans, the leaders proposed a radical plan. South of the city, the population was mostly rural and poor. The leaders appealed to the federal government to essentially sacrifice those parishes by blowing up an earthen levee and diverting the water to marshland. They promised restitution to people who would lose their homes. Government officials, including Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover, signed off.
On April 29, the levee at Caernarvon, 13 miles south of New Orleans, succumbed to 39 tons of dynamite. The river rushed through at 250,000 cubic feet per second. New Orleans was saved, but the misery of the flooded parishes had only started. The city fathers took years to make good on their promises, and very few residents ever saw any compensation at all.
The water, which had started rising on Good Friday, would not recede until July. Many victims would never return to their homes. Hoover, who won support for leading relief efforts, went on to win the presidential election. And the Corps of Engineers, who had said the levees would hold, was humbled. Says Daniel: "People complained about the corps . . . but they never blamed the river. They understood: 'That's the river. That's nature. That's what it's supposed to be doing.' "
This story appears in the September 12, 2005 print edition of U.S. News & World Report.
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I havent forgotten Chrissy Poo!
Geez Louise! I didnt even know Chris had a million dollars until I read this article. Poor Chrissy Poo! And what is Onch Jewelry anyways?? I agree with this article saying they are just trying to get thier name in the news.
http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2007/10/05/jewelry-company-sues-chris-crocker-for-fraud
This article is seriously hilarious to me though. And Chris, if you are in need of representation, call me.
http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2007/10/05/jewelry-company-sues-chris-crocker-for-fraud
This article is seriously hilarious to me though. And Chris, if you are in need of representation, call me.
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And why would I be discussing the Patriot Act?
The United States Constitution and the Declaration of Independence have long since been the documents that ensured that Americans would be able to live in a state of democracy, where above all else they would be able to pursue their right to life, liberty, and happiness. In order to ensure the balance of democracy between the American people and their government the Bill of Rights was drafted. These three documents ensure the system of checks and balances the founders of this nation intended the government of the country to uphold, a system of checks and balances that would keep a level playing field between the government and its constituents. Enter the United States Patriot Act.
The United States Patriot Act was enacted in a time of overall American turmoil. Even though terrorism had been mentioned or discussed previously in American history and even though we had been targeted on our own soil for terrorist attacks, the American sentiment was that we were untouchable. This administration was able to pass the United States Patriot Act through quicker than usual and quite possibly without going through the system of checks and balances that form the basis of democracy. However, Executive Privilege was used to make the United States Patriot Act pass. In my opinion, there were good intentions for the Patriot Act and maybe if it had gone through the normal system of checks and balances popular opinion would not feel it was being used as a coverall to take away the basic freedoms the Founding Father’s of this nation promised to them.
An example of the United States Patriot Act being used inappropriately was when the Federal Bureau of Investigations clearly violated the fourth amendment to the U.S. Constitution and were forcing phone companies and internet providers to turn over records without letting the American citizens know they were doing so. This has already been recognized by the judicial system and appropriate measures are being taken to correct this infringement on private citizens right to be protected against unreasonable search.
Furthermore, beyond violating one’s right to privacy by seizing these records without their knowledge, the act of the government seizing these files could land a person in an even larger dilemma. The entire world is currently having a problem with identity theft. Just because a person works for the F.B.I. or the C.I.A does not mean that they will always take the best care of this type of sensitive information. Just as they claim they are seizing these documents for National security, it seems to be they are forgetting about private security. Does it mean you are unpatriotic if you put your private security above National security? No it does not, it simply means you are exercising your right as an American citizen as promised to you in the fourth amendment to the United States Constitution.
When reading this article, I could not help but be reminded of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA) which was enstated in 1996. Soon following, every credit card company, loan company, cell phone provider company was sending me statements in regards to my right to privacy. Listed in these rights to privacy were provisions maintaining that myself and my information would be secure with that company and that my information would not be breeched to third parties. It seems that in the wake of 9/11 this right to privacy was abandoned. Overall, it seems that the system of checks and balances was compromised.
In conclusion, the United States Patriot Act was meant to help fight terrorism and I truly believe it is being used effectively concerning that issue. It is when various branches of the government start using it as a loophole to further their current cause and violating our right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness that the American people to need enact their right to free speech and stand up for the foundation this country was built on.
The United States Patriot Act was enacted in a time of overall American turmoil. Even though terrorism had been mentioned or discussed previously in American history and even though we had been targeted on our own soil for terrorist attacks, the American sentiment was that we were untouchable. This administration was able to pass the United States Patriot Act through quicker than usual and quite possibly without going through the system of checks and balances that form the basis of democracy. However, Executive Privilege was used to make the United States Patriot Act pass. In my opinion, there were good intentions for the Patriot Act and maybe if it had gone through the normal system of checks and balances popular opinion would not feel it was being used as a coverall to take away the basic freedoms the Founding Father’s of this nation promised to them.
An example of the United States Patriot Act being used inappropriately was when the Federal Bureau of Investigations clearly violated the fourth amendment to the U.S. Constitution and were forcing phone companies and internet providers to turn over records without letting the American citizens know they were doing so. This has already been recognized by the judicial system and appropriate measures are being taken to correct this infringement on private citizens right to be protected against unreasonable search.
Furthermore, beyond violating one’s right to privacy by seizing these records without their knowledge, the act of the government seizing these files could land a person in an even larger dilemma. The entire world is currently having a problem with identity theft. Just because a person works for the F.B.I. or the C.I.A does not mean that they will always take the best care of this type of sensitive information. Just as they claim they are seizing these documents for National security, it seems to be they are forgetting about private security. Does it mean you are unpatriotic if you put your private security above National security? No it does not, it simply means you are exercising your right as an American citizen as promised to you in the fourth amendment to the United States Constitution.
When reading this article, I could not help but be reminded of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA) which was enstated in 1996. Soon following, every credit card company, loan company, cell phone provider company was sending me statements in regards to my right to privacy. Listed in these rights to privacy were provisions maintaining that myself and my information would be secure with that company and that my information would not be breeched to third parties. It seems that in the wake of 9/11 this right to privacy was abandoned. Overall, it seems that the system of checks and balances was compromised.
In conclusion, the United States Patriot Act was meant to help fight terrorism and I truly believe it is being used effectively concerning that issue. It is when various branches of the government start using it as a loophole to further their current cause and violating our right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness that the American people to need enact their right to free speech and stand up for the foundation this country was built on.
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Thank you TMZ
This morning when I was going my usual and checking out the entertainment "news" I was amazed to see that people had found it necessary to report that Britney Spears had eaten a Taco Bell hard shell taco. Are you kidding me!!! I looked at at least 4 or 5 articles describing her eating this taco. The articles were overly critical of her gorging out and reports of her binge eating! Are you kidding me!!! ONE TACO!
I am not doing to say all that crap about how this truly reflects our society...blah blah blah. But it is sad and it just reiterates what Chris Crocker says, "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" She cant even get a taco without being hounded, judged, and ridiculed. People wonder why she acts as crazy as she does, and the answer to that is simple...she is riduculed and taunted at every move she makes....why dont you try staying sane while going through that. Some of the pain is self inflicted dont get me wrong...and I think underlying all of her crazy antics is an addiction to attention and a serious narcisstic personality. Anyways check out her eating her taco @
Have you heard "Gimme More"? Honestly, this song would never be number 1 on the charts if not for all of her antics. It has had so many downloads because of curiousity. People who didnt catch the VMAs who havent had a chance to hear this monstrosity. I assume the song will drop of the charts within the next 2 weeks once everyone has gotten a chance simply to sample it. The one good moment for the song was that it was featured in a scene of The Hills. Lauren was jammin to it at a club...for a moment it seemed kind of cool. And it probably is if you are wasted at a club and feel the need to dance.
See I just honestly critiqued Britney's music...the thing she is supposed to be famous for. People need to start talking about her music and quit talking about her eating habits. But then I guess there would be nothing to talk about.
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